PA DB521 vs 5251 - Need help getting front stage actually in front of me!

[Doc_Jim]

Greets.

Short of it: Jeep Wrangler. PA 521's in front....PA 651s in soundbar (right behind driver/pass...above head).

Basslink in the back.

Sound Ordnance 4050 amp (4x50)

KDC 897 HU

Perhaps due to the fact Wranglers **** for audio? I have to really wreck the amp gain and crank the faders in order to get the stage in front of me.

If I run front gain at like 85% and rear gain at like 50% and then put faders 35% to the front.....it mostly puts things in front of me.....but I am sacrificing a lot of 'volume' to run this way.

Anything shy of the above and the stage is behind my head :-|

Im no expert (or anywhere even close)....and I know this isnt a high end setup by any stretch....

Any advice on how to correct this? Would crossover tuning affect this? Insight from you guys?

I was thinking changing the fronts to DB 5251 components might help? With the separate tweeter and such?

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[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I dont see it happening with a sound bar right over your head. IMO ditch that and build up the front stage. Get it right and it wont be missed

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

Wranglers **** for audio. I have not had a chance to try them, but you might want to try Q-Logic kick panels if they're available for your body style. They need to be cut to fit your speakers, so you could try them with coaxials at first.

 

[Doc_Jim]

thx. WIll look into that. I know they are sh*t for audio.

I feel like if I can just get enough power into the fronts, and maybe with separates as well............then it could work.

Maybe if I went to 4X100 amp.....then trimmed the rears down enough so the fronts were present? I would then still have plenty of headroom.

This approach now, with 4x50 cuts out too much power.

Will check those panels. Thx.