One last upgrade

[OldManBass]

The MS-8 can do what you want. My temp setup is a 21inch subwoofer and my stock bose setup running on a ms-8. For setup, keep your sub gain DOWN. Keep it where it all blends ok and on the input setup, when you test each output, the noise coming from sub shouldn't be louder than anything else. Once the MS-8 has done it's thing, you can turn always up it. The MS-8 has a subwoofer control, just make sure when you did the initial setup, the bass knob was all the way down, hu wherever you normally run it and the amp was as high as it needed to be to get you to blend. Then when you want more bass, kick up the ms-8 subwoofer or just go straight for the remote gain knob. The MS-8 won't register that increase, so no, it won't try to keep your bass blending, but at 150db, it's not going to succeed anyway and that's not the point lol.
I don't have a remote knob in my setup, I keep the bass setting and subwoofer at middle positionto get the midbass required that I used for my setup, and simply max out subwoofer and kick the bass setting up a notch or two from there if I'm playing rap. That is enough to max out my subwoofers actual output on a 1000 watt amp. That's pretty good amount of gain built in considering at flat on both it matches up to stock 5.25 midbasses lol.

FWIW, the ms-8 does a "good" job tuning. You'll stil want to tweak it once it's done it's thing, but it does do a nice job, especially if your car has a center channel, or if you willing to add one. Best auto-tune I've heard to date.

Also you can get the MS-8 off of amazon for less than 500.

Also if you want a setup that blends and another that doesn't you do that by using the favorites, you can set up to 5 presets. Adjusting the bass and subwoofer controls works. However, a remote gain knob would do the same thing really , IMO better. Just turn you SQ setting up on the sub amp lol.l

So let me get this straight... I can get an MS-8, turn my substage down, and let it autotune for SQ? Then just turn the substage up and I'll have the bass I have now?

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Yup. The MS-8 will do 2 things to the sub output. First, It'll flatten your response a little bit in terms of the sub vs it's own output 60vs30 vs 45hz for example, but that generally makes it sound better and flatter at any volume level. Second, it'll turn the overall sub level down to balance with your front speakers. Afterwards, yeah, you can turn the sub up as loud as you'd like through a remote gain knob or the subwoofer control on the ms-8. If you didn't like it's overall frequency response correction you can undo that too using the graphic EQ, boosting would be fine in that case because your really just boosting back what was cut away. Like I said though, the EQ makes thing sound better, not worse, and it wont' fix any MAJOR issues, so if you built your box to be very bottom heavy, it'll still have a similar sound, just a bit more up top maybe. Regardless, when you turn it back down it will blend right back in. Like I said, my substage blends right in VERY well mating stock speakers to a 21inch sub in 8cubic feet tuned to 28hz. Just using the MS-8s adjustments, I can definetly turn it up to full blast and move air if I choose too. Remote gain knob would still be the best way though, IMO, I just don't have that option right now.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

With my kind of high power front stage with the speakers I run and install it blends now all the way through the volume knob. I dont see it cutting much off if the MS-8 autotunes at a low volume. My box plays very flat from 26-45hz, about 1.5db. after 45hz it does fall off but the midbass picks up strong 60hz and up. So ther is a bit of a gap but its not that noticable unless I'm playing C&S music

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I'm almost set on the MS-8 but I have one concern. I run 3 way off the slash amps right now and I want to keep it that way, it took a long time to get the slopes and CO points where I wanted them. The HU HPFs the midbass and the 300/2 LPFs, the 450/4 runs all for channels for the midrange and tweeters, HPF for the mid and bandpasses up top.. Is this going to throw off the MS-8?

The only reason I "wanted" the M4a was I wanted a DD amp but its loud enough, the Mille is really not needed, I prefer the more aggressive HSK XL.

The one thing, if I don't like the autotune I'm not going to use its other features, I don't even use my 7 band now.

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

I'm almost set on the MS-8 but I have one concern. I run 3 way off the slash amps right now and I want to keep it that way, it took a long time to get the slopes and CO points where I wanted them. The HU HPFs the midbass and the 300/2 LPFs, the 450/4 runs all for channels for the midrange and tweeters, HPF for the mid and bandpasses up top.. Is this going to throw off the MS-8? The only reason I "wanted" the M4a was I wanted a DD amp but its loud enough, the Mille is really not needed, I prefer the more aggressive HSK XL.

The one thing, if I don't like the autotune I'm not going to use its other features, I don't even use my 7 band now.

You HAVE TO use the 31 band graphic EQ after calibration. Like I've said before, it is NOT like your typical graphic EQ. You draw a curve to get the system sounding how you want, like this:

You will need to set your amplifier's crossovers to full range. You define all the crossovers in MS-8. I promise, if you have the ability to figure out crossovers and slopes to get your system sounding good you can handle MS-8. Write down your crossover settings so you can set it that way with MS-8. It will prompt you for a subsonic filter, then sub/midbass, then midbass/midrange, then midrange/tweeter. You can't underlap or overlap frequencies. You can choose -6, -12, -18, or -24 dB/octave for your slopes. I strongly recommend you start with them all at 24 dB/octave, except the subsonic filter typically is a 12 dB slope.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

You HAVE TO use the 31 band graphic EQ after calibration. Like I've said before, it is NOT like your typical graphic EQ. You draw a curve to get the system sounding how you want, like this:

You will need to set your amplifier's crossovers to full range. You define all the crossovers in MS-8. I promise, if you have the ability to figure out crossovers and slopes to get your system sounding good you can handle MS-8. Write down your crossover settings so you can set it that way with MS-8. It will prompt you for a subsonic filter, then sub/midbass, then midbass/midrange, then midrange/tweeter. You can't underlap or overlap frequencies. You can choose -6, -12, -18, or -24 dB/octave for your slopes. I strongly recommend you start with them all at 24 dB/octave, except the subsonic filter typically is a 12 dB slope.

I got you. I was worried about he 450/4 because it runs 4 channel of two inputs. I forgot about having to go through the MS-8 anyway