New test..IA 20.1 vs. Kicker ZX2500.1 vs. Orion 2500D

[2loud4u 10+ year member]

Loyd is getting a little more, but I am unsure of his voltage. Cant be more then 14v

He made a post on the IA forum.

Around 12v he was getting 2500w give or take alittle.

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

in this particular test....

Kicker

Orion

20.1

Its proven that the 20.1 isnt an outstanding daily amp....It shines at really low impedances. And this setup is a Daily Driven Comp setup, and Orion and Kicker have proven time and time again that they are superior daily amps....now on the otherhand Drop the impedance down lower than .5 ohms and the 20.1 will hand The Orion and Kicker their *****.

 

[mtdewelf 10+ year member]

If this test is not done as a bench test would. All results are null and void. You need a stable testing environment to be able to extract viable outcomes...
It will how ever give a practical application estimate.

which is truly more useful then a stable, uneffected voltage supply.

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

in this particular test....
Kicker

Orion

20.1

Its proven that the 20.1 isnt an outstanding daily amp....It shines at really low impedances. And this setup is a Daily Driven Comp setup, and Orion and Kicker have proven time and time again that they are superior daily amps....now on the otherhand Drop the impedance down lower than .5 ohms and the 20.1 will hand The Orion and Kicker their *****.

does anyone ever read what the original poster posted???

he said his gonna test the ia and the orion at .5

and the kicker at .5-1-2 ohms.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

which is truly more useful then a stable, uneffected voltage supply.

Bad thing about it, is not everyone will have the same environment as the tester. So the results will differ greatly from vehicle to vehicle.

 

[mikeyboc 10+ year member]

Bad thing about it, is not everyone will have the same environment as the tester. So the results will differ greatly from vehicle to vehicle.

The same can be said going from the bench to various vehicles.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

The same can be said going from the bench to various vehicles.

True, but isn't that common sense. That a bench test is only to show what the product is actually capable of producing in a install, perfectly matching the test environment? Given the correct current and impedance vehicle responses can be accurate with the bench.

I would imagine the original poster will be posting the information, in hopes of pointing out the stronger/better product. Which will not be accurate.

 

[vetkilr 10+ year member]

Kicker needs to be modded to go lower then 1 ohm........

but 1 ohm and up kicker will rule all...........

Orion at .5

IA under .5

 

[Chevyaudio 5,000+ posts]

does anyone ever read what the original poster posted???
he said his gonna test the ia and the orion at .5

and the kicker at .5-1-2 ohms.

I said Lower than .5 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

IA will out do the orion lower than .5 but the Orion will probably out do the 20.1 at .5 especially if he doesnt have the juice to keep the voltage up.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

i read this whole fcking thread and still no results?!! wtf?!

 

[mtdewelf 10+ year member]

i read this whole fcking thread and still no results?!! wtf?!

then you didn't read well, he said he's posting results later this evening, thread only been up for an hour or so.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

lol i didnt pay attention to time/dates.. i just saw it was 4 pages and figured there would be some results in there someplace!

 

[Ricky616 10+ year member]

any results yet? kicker zx ftw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[TypeRBass 10+ year member]

Well here are the results

clamped the IA @ .5 ohms again.

did about 1800 watts with a 2.2 ohm rise

the Kicker @ 2 ohms did abouit 1500 with a 8.9 ohm rise //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

the Kicker @ 1 ohm did a 2150 with a 4.3 ohm rise and was 90% efficient..and yes we did the math

the kicker @ .5 ohm did 2550 with a 2.2 ohm rise //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif

and i metered iwth the kicker @ 2 ohms and .5 ohms with 2 subs, and 1 ohm with 4 subs

2 ohms - 147.9 on 2 subs

.5 ohms - 149.9 on subs

1 ohm - 151.2 on all 4 subs.

so IMO overall...

thet Kicker takes the cake, no questions asked.

and it is A LOT more efficient than a 20.1 is.

::waits for the IA boner to pop up::

::waits for nobody to believe these results::

and btw voltage didnt drop below 12.4 volts during testing.

bring it on haters.

 

[HotCarl 10+ year member]

Well here are the resultsclamped the IA @ .5 ohms again.

did about 1800 watts with a 2.2 ohm rise

the Kicker @ 2 ohms did abouit 1500 with a 8.9 ohm rise //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

the Kicker @ 1 ohm did a 2150 with a 4.3 ohm rise and was 90% efficient..and yes we did the math

the kicker @ .5 ohm did 2550 with a 2.2 ohm rise //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif

and i metered iwth the kicker @ 2 ohms and .5 ohms with 2 subs, and 1 ohm with 4 subs

2 ohms - 147.9 on 2 subs

.5 ohms - 149.9 on subs

1 ohm - 151.2 on all 4 subs.

so IMO overall...

thet Kicker takes the cake, no questions asked.

and it is A LOT more efficient than a 20.1 is.

::waits for the IA boner to pop up::

::waits for nobody to believe these results::

and btw voltage didnt drop below 12.4 volts during testing.

bring it on haters.

hows abouts the Orion?