Need Help With New Speakers For My Car

[AChad92]

Trey you're giving me more info I'm looking for so please stay! lmao

I'm going to need help with proper amp kits or whatever else I need along with what I want.

Yes, I'm just looking for a HU and amp to improve the stock speakers I have now. That's the main thing.

I'd like the HU and amp to compatible with new speakers or a sub that I may plan on getting in the future, but is NOT a necessity.

Next up, after getting the HU/ Amp, is either upgrading my speakers or buying an amp. But that's something we can discuss another time.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

soo much left and right man. He wants overall better sound, not just loud music with his friends and other general assumptions. Overall better sound would be achieved with good Equalization and time alignment to get a good soundstage and clean/clear sound, Which we will help him achieve with tuning advice he can ask whenever. Of course some power will give him plenty of loudness. You guys downplay the stock speakers soo much when you guys have not even owned a corolla same generation as him before. This is more complicated than it needs to be.

 

[fly_marlin]

That's obvious, but I have also owned a MB Quart, cosmetics are better IMO. My friend had one that overheat all the time. Just saying, comparing apples to apples in terms of MB Quart vs Hifonics. You don't spend $10 extra and all of the sudden have the best deal of the century from the same manufacturer, get where I'm going?

Well I have one and used it for about 2 months, beat it up pretty well, barely ever got warm. This is the reference series, which I own. Also heard ref mids made by maxxsonics, awesome performance for the price. Either way, this is a budget build and something's always gonna give. As far as 2-way, we hardly ever count the sub as it's implied it's running active. So 2-way active front stage is what he can do, though I think for his application, passive is the way to go.

 

[fly_marlin]

So it is three way active capable I'm guessing is what you meant by that? 5v preouts are nice too. Sounds like a hard HU to beat for the price!
Sooooo, what's the amp powering? Is that just for speakers in the future? And does he know to get his wiring at Knukonceptz or similar, OFC? 8ga, 4ga? Do you know any of this OP? Are you just buying head unit and amp and getting speakers in future? Am I asking questions that have already been answered? Should I just leave this thread? lol I'm done

Few hours ago he was gonna go ampless, needless to say...he didn't need a wiring kit.

 

[AChad92]

I never planned on going ampless. I was deciding between that $230 Sony deck that included a built-in amp and then that Sony/ Hifonics, but am leaning towards the Clarion/ MB Quart amp.

 

[fly_marlin]

I never planned on going ampless. I was deciding between that $230 Sony deck that included a built-in amp and then that Sony/ Hifonics, but am leaning towards the Clarion/ MB Quart amp.

Do your friends have wiring already? If not, you can get a 4awg kit at knukonceptz.com or anything else that's quality.

 

[AChad92]

And as far as I've seen from both this HU and amp, they are both great deals for their prices and with the budget I limited myself to, it'll fit my needs, correct?

Now I just need to learn about the wiring kits that I'll need to go with it all.

 

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Do your friends have wiring already? If not, you can get a 4awg kit at knukonceptz.com or anything else that's quality.

As of right now, I don't think they have wiring, but I haven't really asked around yet since I haven't officially made up my mind on what to get.

 

[fly_marlin]

And as far as I've seen from both this HU and amp, they are both great deals for their prices and with the budget I limited myself to, it'll fit my needs, correct?
Now I just need to learn about the wiring kits that I'll need to go with it all.

 

---------- Post added at 05:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:47 PM ----------

 

As of right now, I don't think they have wiring, but I haven't really asked around yet since I haven't officially made up my mind on what to get.

So the tricky part here is this. You can spend more now and wire for the future, when you get a sub amp. Or you can spend less now and then rewire the car or add additional wiring.

 

[AChad92]

So the tricky part here is this. You can spend more now and wire for the future, when you get a sub amp. Or you can spend less now and then rewire the car or add additional wiring.

Hmm interesting decision. How much would would each be?

 

[fly_marlin]

[quote name='AChad92']Hmm interesting decision. How much would would each be?[/QUOTE]

Also depends on how much power you'll need later. @mylows10 can probably ship you something for a good price. You can probably wire for 4awg to a distribution block and 8awg out of it.

 

[TreyE 10+ year member]

soo much left and right man. He wants overall better sound, not just loud music with his friends and other general assumptions. Overall better sound would be achieved with good Equalization and time alignment to get a good soundstage and clean/clear sound, Which we will help him achieve with tuning advice he can ask whenever. Of course some power will give him plenty of loudness. You guys downplay the stock speakers soo much when you guys have not even owned a corolla same generation as him before. This is more complicated than it needs to be.

All stock speakers have sounded really bad that I have personally come across. Plus didn't he say it was like an '04? Those speakers have seen better days lol. I'll let him use your advice, I know you know what you're talking about more than I do probably but I'm just bringing in some other ideas. It is a forum.

Well I have one and used it for about 2 months, beat it up pretty well, barely ever got warm. This is the reference series, which I own. Also heard ref mids made by maxxsonics, awesome performance for the price. Either way, this is a budget build and something's always gonna give. As far as 2-way, we hardly ever count the sub as it's implied it's running active. So 2-way active front stage is what he can do, though I think for his application, passive is the way to go.

We are talking about the same things, just different ways. If you're able to run tweet (Front) RCA and mid (Rear) RCA and sub RCA from head unit its 3-way active, not 2-way with implied sub. Let's just agree to disagree.

Hmm interesting decision. How much would would each be?

Well if you want to do it right you're going to want to buy OFC (Oxygen Free Copper) cable, it is the best cable period. If you wanted to run up to like 500-700rms (TOTAL) from your system you'd prob be ok with 8ga OFC. If you plan on running up to about 1200rms (TOTAL) you would want to run 4ga.

-So I guess the question is, how big are you trying to go on the subwoofer side?

-Are you planning on running active or passive components up front?

This website will give you more knowledge than you'd ever want to know. Dig around, the right side scrolls to see different categories.

Basic Car Audio Electronics

Passive:

Passive Crossovers

Active:

Electronic Crossover

Here is this forums attempt at passive/active crossovers. Has some good info.

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speakers/146726-active-vs-passive-attempt-me-explain.html

To go a little further....

Being able to go active gives you the ability to buy raw drivers, any raw drivers and pair them with raw tweeters. I am not going to lie, it took me a looooooong time to go active because I was afraid of it. Now that I run active I didn't realize how easy it was, what better choice I have for speakers and also the control I have over them. That's just my experience, I wouldn't be mad atcha if you didn't feel comfortable especially since it's your first system but we could help.

 

[AChad92]

I think I'll go with spending less now and then worry about re-wiring in the future.

 

[fly_marlin]

I think I'll go with spending less now and then worry about re-wiring in the future.

You can go with their 4awg $27 kit then.

 

[AChad92]

You can go with their 4awg $27 kit then.

Okay perfect!

 

[AChad92]

All stock speakers have sounded really bad that I have personally come across. Plus didn't he say it was like an '04? Those speakers have seen better days lol. I'll let him use your advice, I know you know what you're talking about more than I do probably but I'm just bringing in some other ideas. It is a forum.


We are talking about the same things, just different ways. If you're able to run tweet (Front) RCA and mid (Rear) RCA and sub RCA from head unit its 3-way active, not 2-way with implied sub. Let's just agree to disagree.

Well if you want to do it right you're going to want to buy OFC (Oxygen Free Copper) cable, it is the best cable period. If you wanted to run up to like 500-700rms (TOTAL) from your system you'd prob be ok with 8ga OFC. If you plan on running up to about 1200rms (TOTAL) you would want to run 4ga.

-So I guess the question is, how big are you trying to go on the subwoofer side?

-Are you planning on running active or passive components up front?

I'm not trying to run any subs for now. But the Amp I'm looking to get is 400 watts

This one: MB Quart RA400.2 Reference Series 400W 2-Channel Amplifier

And I have no idea what passive or active components are right now, but I plan on powering my stock speakers with the new HU and amp that I'll get. I'll look more into the component speakers and a sub once I get more money to spend.