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[Chriszle 10+ year member]

Why would you do that? Pitbulls where specifically breed to kill in European countries as war dogs. It is genetic for them to go for the kill. No matter how much training a dog can have genetics will ALWAYS over ride that and they can snap at an instance. Exactly like they do when they eat sleeping babies faces off.

I politely disagree. They were bred for dog-to-dog combat originally (not to be aggressive toward humans). The American Temperament Test Society provides testing around the country for dog breeds and provides a passing score for the entire breed, based on the percentage of passed over failed within total number of that particular breed tested. As of March 2001, the American Pit Bull Terrier has a current passing rate of 82.3% which makes him one of the top 5 most stable breed of dog in the country.

 

[Bettr n' Revrse 5,000+ posts]

Mehhh

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

In a way, that is undeniable because, AFAIK the breed did come about in Europe with the sole intention of fighting.
But, an equal amount of blame can still be put upon the humans involved since they chose to create a beast with such a temperament that it could strike at any moment at anyone.

Kinda makes me wonder about the Labrador's background since they are responsible for just as many if not more dog bites than Pits (with the pits having the edge in fatalities).

Why can you blame people? It is a war dog. Its not meant to be kept in a house. I guess you could blame them for being fucking stupid for trying to raise a dog like that.

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

I politely disagree. They were bred for dog-to-dog combat originally (not to be aggressive toward humans). The American Temperament Test Society provides testing around the country for dog breeds and provides a passing score for the entire breed, based on the percentage of passed over failed within total number of that particular breed tested. As of March 2001, the American Pit Bull Terrier has a current passing rate of 82.3% which makes him one of the top 5 most stable breed of dog in the country.

So your saying that in 1830 pitbulls were not breed for war in Europe after they banned breeding them to kill cattle? Because that most definitely is true. No matter what spin the ATTS puts on it, history proves what they were breed for. There is no arguing genetics either. Im glad some biased testing put together by a 3rd party has you more convinced than genetic evidence.

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

Why can you blame people? It is a war dog. Its not meant to be kept in a house. I guess you could blame them for being fucking stupid for trying to raise a dog like that.

It is a war dog.

created by humans...

 

[whitedragon551 5,000+ posts]

created by humans...

I didnt say the human population in its current state was top class in terms of common sense.

 

[garretttt4 10+ year member]

Poooooooooooooaaaaaaasssttt.

 

[Chriszle 10+ year member]

So your saying that in 1830 pitbulls were not breed for war in Europe after they banned breeding them to kill cattle? Because that most definitely is true. No matter what spin the ATTS puts on it, history proves what they were breed for. There is no arguing genetics either. Im glad some biased testing put together by a 3rd party has you more convinced than genetic evidence.

While I am not a pitbull owner, I have a few close friends and family members who own them. My opinion is not only established by what I have read, but the years worth of experiences I have had with the dogs. Never once I have I seen one even remotely aggressive toward a human. A couple of them are actually incredibly shy and timid until they get used to you.

 

[Chriszle 10+ year member]

So your saying that in 1830 pitbulls were not breed for war in Europe after they banned breeding them to kill cattle? Because that most definitely is true. No matter what spin the ATTS puts on it, history proves what they were breed for. There is no arguing genetics either. Im glad some biased testing put together by a 3rd party has you more convinced than genetic evidence.

Can you please explain exactly how the ATTS testing is biased. Also, I would like to know what the ATTS has to gain by providing such "biased" information.

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

If you look at the history of the breed, you'll see that the pit bull was originally bread to bull baiting(hense the name) which was a sport of pitting a bull against a dog or several dogs. They were later used for dog fighting due to their tenaciousness. To be useful in any sort of bull baiting or dog fighting, the dog had to be aggressive toward other animals and not people. Otherwise handling the dog would be impossible. Responsible breeders have tried to breed out the aggressive behaviors but there are always irresponsible breeders out there. The actual amount of dog bites that occur from pit bulls are quite small compared to other breeds. There is a lot of ignorance that occurs in the US in regards to Pit bulls. I suggest watching the movie on netflix called "Beyond the Hype"

 

[stocker08 10+ year member]

What the **** is going on in heeere?

 

[Lowflyin 10+ year member]

My cat bit me once

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

I bite cats

 

[Lowflyin 10+ year member]

teach me how to dougie