My mids are not as loud as I though......

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

You need good power and install to get really loud with the windows down. That is an incredibly high noise floor you are trying to play over.

 

[mrogowski 5,000+ posts]

Volume controls are not linear, so don't think of #3 on the dial to be 33% of the total output. Depending on the output of the preamp stage, you could reach full output from your amplifier at less than half-way.

The volume increase could also be you reaching the full output of the amp and are driving the amp into clipping. How does the music sound to you when you do this? If you notice that you begin to lose low end and things begin to sound "flat", you are clipping your amp.

 

[eskimochaos 10+ year member]

You need good power and install to get really loud with the windows down. That is an incredibly high noise floor you are trying to play over.

I guess your right because for me it would be suicidal to listen at max volume with the windows up.

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

100 on the components and coaxials and either 100 or 80 for the sub, the amps hpf and lpf are set the same way

have you played with the HP at all? try setting it lower and see what happens. as long as you have the comps hooked up to the passive crossovers you shouldnt damage them if you set it to low. its all about trial and error when it comes to tuning. ive spent hours and hours tuning ha ha.

and my eclipse volume goes from 0- 70 or 80 (i forget exactly) but it doesnt even start to get audible till like 35 and is clean and clear till like 67.

 

[eskimochaos 10+ year member]

have you played with the HP at all? try setting it lower and see what happens. as long as you have the comps hooked up to the passive crossovers you shouldnt damage them if you set it to low. its all about trial and error when it comes to tuning. ive spent hours and hours tuning ha ha.
and my eclipse volume goes from 0- 70 or 80 (i forget exactly) but it doesnt even start to get audible till like 35 and is clean and clear till like 67.

I really appreciate your genuine help. Now what do you mean passive? Is the HU passive or active?

Thanks a lot man!

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

I guess your right because for me it would be suicidal to listen at max volume with the windows up.

Then I would say they are plenty loud. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

I really appreciate your genuine help. Now what do you mean passive? Is the HU passive or active?
Thanks a lot man!

the comp set should have external crossovers. the little plastic boxes the wires are connected between the speakers and the amps. do you know where they are?

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

Now I know that loud is very relative, and that each person is into something else. My HU goes to a max of 33ish and I find myself listening to it around 24-26 while cruising to work in the morning with the windows down. For some reason the mids just dont seem that loud. I set the gain on the amps w/ 3/4 HU volume and I feel that at that volume it should be unbearable regardless of the person because that is where I tuned everything to.
I have a PDX-5 (I know I changed my mind after I purchased it that I was not going to run subs off of it) rated at 101x4 on the birthsheet

JL VR600csi 6.5 components up front and TR600cxi in the rear.

What can I do to make it louder...looking back I chose the wrong speakers but is the amp loud enough?

Is it normal to listen to 24ish out of 28(where I set gains at) and it still not be THAT loud?

I wish I had someone to compare to...non of my friends have a system.

The stock system in my 93 legend w/ BOSE stereo seems louder.

OH, BTW, my installer used 20 gauge speaker wire.

Thanks in advance!

Oh yea my HU is a Kenwood DDX712

You still haven't took your car back and complained? Didn't you pay **** near 600 dollars?

 

[eskimochaos 10+ year member]

You still haven't took your car back and complained? Didn't you pay **** near 600 dollars?

Is that sarcastic?

Yes I did pay $600

 

[TurdFergueson2 5,000+ posts]

Is that sarcastic?
Yes I did pay $600

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324326

I'm going off of that. I still say you should take it back and have them rewire the doors with something heavier. But more than likely it will cost you some more money. Do you have a loudness on the HU? Alpine I believe right?

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

Is that sarcastic?
Yes I did pay $600

i wouldnt call it sarcastic. 600 bucks to install some stuff it should of been tuned, should of been done with a little better wire, and they should of returned the wire they didnt use that you supplied.

for 600 bucks if i wasnt completely satisfied thered be some problems.

 

[eskimochaos 10+ year member]

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324326
I'm going off of that. I still say you should take it back and have them rewire the doors with something heavier. But more than likely it will cost you some more money. Do you have a loudness on the HU? Alpine I believe right?

Yes it sounds better with loudness on. DDX712 to be exact.

Ill stop buy tomorrow with my American Express card on my side, they can pay for better wire and tear that junk out that they used!

 

[eskimochaos 10+ year member]

i wouldnt call it sarcastic. 600 bucks to install some stuff it should of been tuned, should of been done with a little better wire, and they should of returned the wire they didnt use that you supplied.
for 600 bucks if i wasnt completely satisfied thered be some problems.

Yea the gain's werent even set correctly. The gain on my other m850 which used to be power my subs was at max...giving them a totally clipped signal!

 

[eskimochaos 10+ year member]

Here's a pic of the wire they used: that is 8ga power wire for reference:





what do you think it is?

 

[eskimochaos 10+ year member]

anyone else, thanks a lot guys

good night!