MikeOfTulsa + other mods out of control, F this site. BYE!

[wilzyx 5,000+ posts]

nazi punks, nazi punks, nazi punks, **** off!

 

[GrayMatter4tw 10+ year member]

i love me some tig-ole-bitties

 

[AJ²06 5,000+ posts]

I have a question actually thats related to this subject. A few days ago there was a thread that was opened by one of the mods, where if you clicked on it, when you left the thread you got banned for a day. This was a piss off to me becuase generally you would want your forum members involved and now you get banned for clicking on a thread? Mabye it was a joke but I thought it was just plain stupid and kinda ignorant

Agreee....

 

[turn it up 10+ year member]

come on man, you cannot sit there and honestly think that if you go and ban 30 people for the mere reason of clicking a thread titled "thread" that there wasn't gonna be some sort of shit storm to follow. you and noah may think it's funny, but a lot of those members that got banned were fairly new members and may not of known the humor behind it. they probably don't know a lot of the veteran members or who the mods are. they come on this forum looking for advice and then get banned for nothing. they are gonna assume the mods are assholes. me and you have been here awhile so we know about the mods and can laugh at it. my only problem with this was i was in the middle of a transaction when it happend. anyways you cannot tell me you were this naive. you cannot tell me that banning over 30 people who didn't violate tos would help the forum, who the mods keep saying is a shithole. noah brought this on himself. i don't know what the op deal was with goddy, but goddy suprisingly has been tolerable recently. anyways as jntar said, it's funny get a sense of humor, well i find these threads funny so get a sense of humor

Agree 100%..

It's in the past now and I wont add fuel to the fire. If there is repercussion then let it be.

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

i had a long response but it's not worth it as prowler is god on these forums and it is seemingly that i'm a moron and shouldn't stand up for a friend of mine on something i found funny

I am not God here or anywhere else for that matter. Neither have I ever claimed to be. If my intolerance for stupidity comes across as such then so be it. Like I posted previously ~ I am entitled to my opinion exactly as much as you are. I know you had a long response. TeeBone was kind enough to quote it. I have no doubts that it had nothing to do with retaining my ability to respond to it but as that ability has been retained then respond to it I shall -

what i said that you called ignorant was during a 4 part rant on this forum and 3 others. i don't even know what i was getting at during that point honestly.

Someone made the point that the random bannings catching someone who might have actively been in the middle of a trade of one sort or another was more than a simple inconvenience. You made that remark in response to someone stating that being banned erases the access to PMs and whatnot which is simply, in a word, wrong. Contrary to popular belief the entire internet-using world does not use AIM. Your response to that, now that we've cleared up why you responded in such a manner, remains an ignorant statement. /story

prowler, honestly if you think i am wrapped around noah's nuts you need to get your brain functions checked. being that you're new to this forum i wouldn't imagine you'd know what it was like before you were on here and the constant bullshit that filled this place right? with that being said i greatly appreciate all mods on here and if they get ban happy on occasion so what? it's wrong and very imature but calling them out and acting high and mighty isn't needed either.

I am by far not the only one who sees you wrapped around Noah's nutz. I guess we all need to see someone about it, huh? Get a grip. You're right...in comparison to others I am still a relative newb to the forum. I don't need to have been exposed to whatever kind of crap went on here day to day in the past to understand random bannings for the sake of nothing more than a mod's personal amusement is out of place. All the members here are held to a certain standard of behavior. When that standard is broken what happens? Some form of punishment is instituted. Why wouldn't the mods be held to that same standard if not a more stringent one? Calling mods out for irresponsible behavior is most definitely needed. I guess, following that train of your particular brand of logic, when someone becomes unhappy or disagrees with the job that Mr. Bush is doing then those people should just **** it up and deal with it, right? I don't know what country you're from, fella, but the one in which I was raised wasn't built on a belief in "STFU and deal with it. Don't like it? GTFO." If that is the type of environment you prefer to live in then you are more than welcome to go find such a thing.

do i think mike was ban happy or thread delete happy at one point? yes. do i think noah's actions were unjust and stupid? yes. do i think they were funny? yes. do i think that jntar's argument with the guy from australia about the SPL level and the contest was stupid and banning him and deleting his post count was an act of mod's abusing power? in a way yes. you want to pick apart what i'm saying be my guest you have a monitor, tower, and keyboard you're fully able to say anything you want to be it right or wrong.

No need to pick anything here apart, fella. You're proving my point.

do i really think what i said was in anyway shape or form wrong or on noah's nuts? definetly not. I'd defend or say what i said in regards to ANY mod on this place no matter who it was. I personally found it funny and a joke, hell i posted in that thread basically daring him to ban me so i asked for it. did others no they didn't but do we all have bad things happen to us for one reason or another if we deserve it?

Just like TeeBone said while you're jumping up and down crowing that "It's no big deal...it's only 24 hours....get over it," to some people for a myriad of various reasons it just might have been a big deal! Whether or not you agree with their perceptions of the importance of access to CA.com for those 24 hours notwithstanding it happening in the first place was wrong and that simple, inarguable fact makes your opinion of their reaction(s) rather immaterial, doesn't it?

with all that being said the personal attack on me is your opinion and you can have it. acting uppity about it and IMO as if you're above it is your choice. i'm sure i'll get shit from either you or someone else on this forum but again ask me if i give 2 shits in which the answer will be no.
that being said, was noah wrong yes, did i ever say he wasn't? do i think it was funny to me personally yes, to other's i see how they can find it shitty and i agree with them in aspects of it but seriously 1am on a saturday morning to 1am on a sunday morning isn't the end of the world. we all have things happen to us that may be right or wrong for no apparent reason am i right?

It's not meant as a personal attack, bumpin. I've never gotten crossways with you until this point but I find your continual defense of something that never should have happened in the first place to be a greivous error in judgement on your part. Do bad things happen to people who do not deserve it? Yes, they do. Do I find just as much injustice in those happenings as I do in this latest lunacy here on our fair forum? Again, yes. Uppity? Exactly how am I being uppity by defending the fact that this should not have happened? I am not talking down to anyone....I am simply stating an opinion. An opinion that is not held by myself and myself alone. I do not care if doing so gets me on the bad side of the moderation team for publicly stating that something so many might have found humor in was wrong. I live in a rather black and white world, bumpin. There is very little room for any gray. Right is right and wrong is wrong. /story

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Yet another one of Prowler's rambling responses.....don't wanna read it all? Skip to the next post then!
That's not a promise you can reasonably make. You weren't the one that instituted this silliness to begin with and with the complete lack of interest the Admin apparently has in the normal day-to-day goings on within his own forum I wouldn't say that I particularly have any degree of faith in his "warning" having much longterm effect.

Is being banned from CA.com the end of the world? Hardly. Is that even the point here? Again ~ hardly. If there was a TOS violation that personally affected you in some fashion you'd be one of the first to jump up and down screaming from the hilltops that the offender in question get a vacation.

Why shouldn't the mods be held up to the same standards?

I understand that being a mod here is a rather thankless job. You're constantly under attack for one reason or another, there's no pay, it's a PITA of a responsibility if for no other reason than the amount of traffic this site sees and consequently the percentage of n00bx cubes floating in and out is pretty high, etc etc etc. The list of reasons why being a CA.com moderator just plain SUX is potentially endless.

That being said....if you don't want the job? Don't take it. /story. If you do take the job? Then do it right or see the previous statement. Again, /story.

A perceived necessity to end personal boredom by randomly banning people for (...what was it again? Oh, yeah! Opening a thread on an online discussion board ~ gee, who'd have ever thought of doing that?!?) doing something that the nature of the environment plainly invites you to do is simply assinine. I'm well aware that you are hanging firmly from Noah's nutz and if that is a posture that both you and he are comfortable with then more power to the both of you. My opinion, however, of this being one of the most incredibly ignorant things ever instituted on this forum isn't one that I hold by myself. Don't like my opinion? Good. You don't have to. I don't like yours either so we're even on that count and it doesn't brook any further discussion one way or the other.

That is one of the most singularly idiotic statements I have seen on this forum and that, good sir, is saying something.

No commentary is necessary here....it speaks for itself.

Says he who just joined the forum. I have no clue about the goings on at CS.com. As far as CarAudio.com is concerned Nazi Mods is entirely appropriate for this usage. The door is -------------------> thataway and you're more than welcome to toddle right back on over to CS.com now, tyvm.

If the actual thought behind this thread was MikeOfTulsa's warning towards the OP about continually flaming the forum and not particularly contributing anything else of any value then I'll happily agree with everyone else who has said BUH BYE!! Don't let the doorknob hit you in the arse on the way out!

Outside of that, however, since the thread eventuated into a discussion about the mods in general....let me reiterate....NO, being banned from the site for 24 hours will not end the world or any particular individual's standing in it. That's not the point here and if you'd open your eyes and spit out the nutz you have your lips wrapped so firmly around to look at it with some degree of objectivity you'd see it too.

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[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I am not God here or anywhere else for that matter. Neither have I ever claimed to be. If my intolerance for stupidity comes across as such then so be it. Like I posted previously ~ I am entitled to my opinion exactly as much as you are. I know you had a long response. TeeBone was kind enough to quote it. I have no doubts that it had nothing to do with retaining my ability to respond to it but as that ability has been retained then respond to it I shall -

Someone made the point that the random bannings catching someone who might have actively been in the middle of a trade of one sort or another was more than a simple inconvenience. You made that remark in response to someone stating that being banned erases the access to PMs and whatnot which is simply, in a word, wrong. Contrary to popular belief the entire internet-using world does not use AIM. Your response to that, now that we've cleared up why you responded in such a manner, remains an ignorant statement. /story

I am by far not the only one who sees you wrapped around Noah's nutz. I guess we all need to see someone about it, huh? Get a grip. You're right...in comparison to others I am still a relative newb to the forum. I don't need to have been exposed to whatever kind of crap went on here day to day in the past to understand random bannings for the sake of nothing more than a mod's personal amusement is out of place. All the members here are held to a certain standard of behavior. When that standard is broken what happens? Some form of punishment is instituted. Why wouldn't the mods be held to that same standard if not a more stringent one? Calling mods out for irresponsible behavior is most definitely needed. I guess, following that train of your particular brand of logic, when someone becomes unhappy or disagrees with the job that Mr. Bush is doing then those people should just **** it up and deal with it, right? I don't know what country you're from, fella, but the one in which I was raised wasn't built on a belief in "STFU and deal with it. Don't like it? GTFO." If that is the type of environment you prefer to live in then you are more than welcome to go find such a thing.

No need to pick anything here apart, fella. You're proving my point.

Just like TeeBone said while you're jumping up and down crowing that "It's no big deal...it's only 24 hours....get over it," to some people for a myriad of various reasons it just might have been a big deal! Whether or not you agree with their perceptions of the importance of access to CA.com for those 24 hours notwithstanding it happening in the first place was wrong and that simple, inarguable fact makes your opinion of their reaction(s) rather immaterial, doesn't it?

It's not meant as a personal attack, bumpin. I've never gotten crossways with you until this point but I find your continual defense of something that never should have happened in the first place to be a greivous error in judgement on your part. Do bad things happen to people who do not deserve it? Yes, they do. Do I find just as much injustice in those happenings as I do in this latest lunacy here on our fair forum? Again, yes. Uppity? Exactly how am I being uppity by defending the fact that this should not have happened? I am not talking down to anyone....I am simply stating an opinion. An opinion that is not held by myself and myself alone. I do not care if doing so gets me on the bad side of the moderation team for publicly stating that something so many might have found humor in was wrong. I live in a rather black and white world, bumpin. There is very little room for any gray. Right is right and wrong is wrong. /story

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[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Prowler, please read this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

Prowler please UNDERSTAND this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

Prowler please LEARN this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

Prowler, please put the internalize, use, and remember this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

That is all.

nG

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

Your opinion of my reaction is rather immaterial to me, Jizm.

Just like everyone else on the forum I am entitled to my opinion.

Just like a good deal of other members I chose to publicize my opinion.

Don't like your position and the consequent responsibilities as moderator?

Don't be one.

You were wrong.

That is all.

nP

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Your opinion of my reaction is rather immaterial to me, Jizm.Just like everyone else on the forum I am entitled to my opinion.

Just like a good deal of other members I chose to publicize my opinion.

Don't like your position and the consequent responsibilities as moderator?

Don't be one.

You were wrong.

That is all.

nP

I love my position as a moderator.

YOU...

Are not the moderator police.

YOU...

Did not write the moderator rulebook.

YOU...



Are not in charge of moderator qualifications, actions, consequences, or happenings.

That is all.

nG

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

I love my position as a moderator.

Good! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Then do it well, good sir. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

YOU...Are not the moderator police.

You're right. The entire forum is (or should be)

YOU...Did not write the moderator rulebook.

Again, correct. If there even is such a thing you didn't write it either. Shouldn't you have to abide by it regardless of the author, though?

YOU...Are not in charge of moderator qualifications, actions, consequences, or happenings.

That is all.

nG

There are no moderator "qualifications" outside of being perceived as popular by enough forum members and/or Goob.As to the other three? Again, you're correct. I've been directly charged with the responsibility of overseeing none of that. Goob carries that torch when he sees fit/has time to do so.

Apparently he is in agreement with those of us who disagreed with your actions rather than those who do not see it as having been of any great import.

Now that we've both made it patently obvious that we both disagree on this point and that we care not one iota about each other's thoughts on the subject let's end this pissing match, eh?

I disagreed with something you did and I vocalized (typed) said disagreement. In true Prowler style I got more than a bit wordy while doing so.

I think you were wrong for what you did.

You think I'm a whiney-a*s for thinking it.

Now that we both know where we stand can this be over?

 

[yne721 10+ year member]

Good! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Then do it well, good sir. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
You're right. The entire forum is (or should be)

Again, correct.

If there even is such a thing you didn't write it either. Shouldn't you have to abide by it regardless of the author, though?

 

There are no moderator "qualifications" outside of being perceived as popular by enough forum members and/or Goob.

As to the other three? Again, you're correct. I've been directly charged with the responsibility of overseeing none of that. Goob carries that torch when he sees fit/has time to do so.

Apparently he is in agreement with those of us who disagreed with your actions rather than those who do not see it as having been of any great import.

 

Now that we've both made it patently obvious that we both disagree on this point and that we care not one iota about each other's thoughts on the subject let's end this pissing match, eh?

I disagreed with something you did and I vocalized (typed) said disagreement. In true Prowler style I got more than a bit wordy while doing so.

I think you were wrong for what you did.

You think I'm a whiney-a*s for thinking it.

Now that we both know where we stand can this be over?

 

you missed 11,000

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

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You're right. The entire forum is (or should be) (1)

Again, correct.

If there even is such a thing you didn't write it either. Shouldn't you have to abide by it regardless of the author, though? (2)

 

There are no moderator "qualifications" outside of being perceived as popular by enough forum members and/or Goob. (3)

As to the other three? Again, you're correct. I've been directly charged with the responsibility of overseeing none of that. Goob carries that torch when he sees fit/has time to do so.

Apparently he is in agreement with those of us who disagreed with your actions rather than those who do not see it as having been of any great import. (4)

 

Now that we've both made it patently obvious that we both disagree on this point and that we care not one iota about each other's thoughts on the subject let's end this pissing match, eh?

I disagreed with something you did and I vocalized (typed) said disagreement. In true Prowler style I got more than a bit wordy while doing so.

I think you were wrong for what you did.

You think I'm a whiney-a*s for thinking it.

Now that we both know where we stand can this be over? (5)

 

(1) Eh, not exactly. This is the internets.

(2) There is no such thing, EXACTLY my point.

(3) Precisely.

(4) http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=173346

Post #5 in that thread made me think otherwise, but it has been discussed in the backroom... and mutual agreement is it won't happen again.

(5) Why do you want to always end confrontations right when they start? The answer is, sure. I just felt the need to vocalize my thoughts next to yours //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

 

 

Also, please... I beg of you... make sure you didn't miss this post.

Prowler, please read this thread:

 

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

 

Prowler please UNDERSTAND this thread:

 

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

 

Prowler please LEARN this thread:

 

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

 

Prowler, please put the internalize, use, and remember this thread:

 

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

 

 

That is all.

 

nG

 

Nighty night.

 

nG

 

[iagrdshaka 5,000+ posts]

Prowler, please read this thread:
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

Prowler please UNDERSTAND this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

Prowler please LEARN this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

Prowler, please put the internalize, use, and remember this thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174359

That is all.

nG

You really need to practice what you preach, you take the internet way too seriously yourself.

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

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