Stroker_Boy! It's you! What happened to you and your 130lb audiobahns that were guarunteed to hit 157db's? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gifyea man MA is the ****...i hae two MA Audio HArdkore 12s and they pound, the hard kores series are not the best for driving around, but they are one of the best for comp. the spiders get worn out to fast. in under a month i went from hittin 147s to hitting 143 just from listening to them while driving, but over all i think MA is one of the best out there, yea they have low end crap, and i love the amps, they may over rate them a little bit but they still do the job.