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[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

if i had ****ed up the design i wouldnt had given it to him. we went trough so many diffrent enclosures till we got to this one.

there is no reason this wont work.

and your resoning behind the why it wont work doesnt make sence.

so look over the design some more and find some thing else to critize.

Somehow, I doubt all of that. That design is half-assed at best.

A good enclosure designer knows how to utilize airspace properly, and that box doesn't do that in the least. You can't just have random airspace chambers and expect the box to perform like a "normal" ported box that has one solid chamber would.

PV audio posted a very good example of what I'm trying to tell you.

I think you need to come down off your pedestal and realize that the design you sold him is a piece of crap.

 

[PowerNaudio 10+ year member]

if the distance between the pink panel and the orange panel on that corner was equal to or less then the port opening, it would be seen as your second drawing and a resistive point before the port and thus dividing the firt chamber and the second chamber but since the distance between those two point is grater then the port opening and with enough area to flow air without causing restrictions wich doesnt make it a chamber of its own but part of a biger one.

 

[slikrider20 10+ year member]

Somehow, I doubt all of that. That design is half-assed at best.
A good enclosure designer knows how to utilize airspace properly, and that box doesn't do that in the least. You can't just have random airspace chambers and expect the box to perform like a "normal" ported box that has one solid chamber would.

PV audio posted a very good example of what I'm trying to tell you.

I think you need to come down off your pedestal and realize that the design you sold him is a piece of crap.

I love how honest, open, and direct you are. Not even kidding.

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

if the distance between the pink panel and the orange panel on that corner was equal to or less then the port opening, it would be seen as your second drawing and a resistive point before the port and thus dividing the firt chamber and the second chamber but since the distance between those two point is grater then the port opening and with enough area to flow air without causing restrictions wich doesnt make it a chamber of its own but part of a biger one.

Just give up trying to explain yourself. Nobody here cares.

I'm just hoping the box performs at least OK so the OP is happy with it. By I would be disgusted at myself if I sold a design like that to someone.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

May want to get a better amp while your at it .......... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[tommyk90 5,000+ posts]

I love how honest, open, and direct you are. Not even kidding.

Well thank you.

I'm just hoping that this crazy box does work out for you after all so you don't have to go through the hassle of another box design and build. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[slikrider20 10+ year member]

May want to get a better amp while your at it .......... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

The amp does what i need it to do. If i was made of money i'd agree with you.

 

[slikrider20 10+ year member]

Well thank you.
I'm just hoping that this crazy box does work out for you after all so you don't have to go through the hassle of another box design and build. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

I think in any case i'll be more pleased with this than my previous box with my 12" Mag. If not, screw it, i'll make another box. And start another thread and let the excitement begin again.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Leave the **** guy alone, he made a design, and has made many previous designs. Lets see what the RESULTS are before you b!tch and moan because you think you're better, or his box is crap, or yadda yadda, alot of hot air being blown here for no reason.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

if the distance between the pink panel and the orange panel on that corner was equal to or less then the port opening, it would be seen as your second drawing and a resistive point before the port and thus dividing the firt chamber and the second chamber but since the distance between those two point is grater then the port opening and with enough area to flow air without causing restrictions wich doesnt make it a chamber of its own but part of a biger one.

You don't seem to understand what I'm telling you. The thing I just drew up would be more efficient that what you have there. The fact that the main chamber is ABOVE the second one makes it that much worse. Regardless of the width, it's going to act like two chambers, not one. The airflow is going to go from the first chamber, and either potentially not even utilize the second chamber and go straight through the port, OR, it's going to go into the second chamber, but won't be used as a continuation of the first, and then it will go through the port. Either way, the light blue panel is what's destroying the design (and even without that, it's questionable since you still don't know how it'll behave being choked off at that point in the middle).

 

[slikrider20 10+ year member]

Leave the **** guy alone, he made a design, and has made many previous designs. Lets see what the RESULTS are before you b!tch and moan because you think you're better, or his box is crap, or yadda yadda, alot of hot air being blown here for no reason.

I don't really agree with you, if someone on here thinks that this design isn't as effiecient or designed as well as it could be, I think these guys have a right to say so. especially when money was involved.

And not to mention the fact i won't be able to say how "Good" it is even when i do get everything running, until i had a box that everyone was confident would utilize all the airspace and let it flow like it should. It may impress me, but its not to say that the box was designed "right".

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Leave the **** guy alone, he made a design, and has made many previous designs. Lets see what the RESULTS are before you b!tch and moan because you think you're better, or his box is crap, or yadda yadda, alot of hot air being blown here for no reason.

Since you obviously don't even know what we're talking about, you might as well not even comment.

 

[nismos14 5,000+ posts]

Guess you're right, but you also decided to go with him as a designer, that being said if you wanted him to design it, and he did, and he stands behind his product and believes in it, you and no one else will ever know if it sounds good or not.

 

[slikrider20 10+ year member]

Guess you're right, but you also decided to go with him as a designer, that being said if you wanted him to design it, and he did, and he stands behind his product and believes in it, you and no one else will ever know if it sounds good or not.

I don't think that really made since.

 

[PowerNaudio 10+ year member]

Just give up trying to explain yourself. Nobody here cares.
I'm just hoping the box performs at least OK so the OP is happy with it. By I would be disgusted at myself if I sold a design like that to someone.

you know what tommyk90 **** you. thats how much i care about what you have to say.

the enclosure was designed and redesigned more times then i wanted, to to fit his vehicle and accoustics need. we sure went trough the sealed enclosure subject as well but he wouldn't take that. so i put all my efforts and found answers too all that seems like a fault and came up with this enclosure. there are no aspects that wherent overlooked on this enclosure before i handed this enclosure plan to him and even after that, we reworked the plan even more.

the enclosure will sound good. Perform because it was design properly, not because of pure coincidence.