Laid off?

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Has anyone been laid off from a manufacturing plant? If so, did they attempt to re-skill you? What skills did you learn, ie what kinds of jobs did they prepare you for?

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[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

yes i was laid off from a manufacturing job. The company itself didn't try and re-skill or train us for anything, they just kinda kicked us out the door and said see ya later. The Ohio Department of Job and Family services however has alot of programs to try and train you for a new trade. I was lucky enough to qualify for TAA benefits and the federal government is paying for me to go to college while i collect unemployment. unemployment benefits have been extended from 26 weeks to 108 weeks so i can get an associates degree.

they will also cover on the job training, or apprenticeships etc. if you want to go that route.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I found some information about TAA.

So, there are no specific training?

I found some stuff from the GAO that said some of the occupations picked are as follows:

Truck Driver

Electrician

Nursing and Health Care

HVAC Repair

Computer and Network Support

Is thse "careers after manufacturing" somewhat valid?

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

what do you mean as far as specific training? like what they approve?

generally they will approve anything that is generally in demand. im going for accounting/finance. apparently accountants are in high demand in ohio right now so i was approved almost immediately.

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

My buddy got laid off and got a pell grant or something like that. He got paid unemployment while the grant paid form him to get a bechelors degree in HVAC. He is doing pretty well. I would not suggest truck driver. A few of my friends did it and now dont like it and that industry id cutting back due to the gas crisis.

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

laid off means your outta there...........

If you think layoff's are heading your way I reccomend you find a new job and phuck them before they phuck you......corporate pencilpushers are destroying the economy

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

laid off means your outta there...........If you think layoff's are heading your way I reccomend you find a new job and phuck them before they phuck you......corporate pencilpushers are destroying the economy

I contract for Kmart corp. and they lay off here at least once a year due to the slowing down of the economy. They always bring them back after a month or so. They go and collect unemployment and have a nice vacation and they are right back to work. I sometimes wish I got so lucky.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I do not work in manufacturing...I am not getting laid off. I am doing a paper on economics paper on a hidden cost of international trade, the jobs the former manufacturers are reskilled in cause a "glut" in marginally skilled workers, thus depressing the wage of what used to be good jobs.

Many economists believe that reskilling is the best solution. I am arguing that the depression in wages causes a loss in general welfare as the occupations they chose are beginning to experience much lower growth in wages compared to occupations that are one skill higher. If current skilled labor have to reskill then it will depress the wages of the next higher skilled occupation...like a domino effect, depressing everyone's wages.

By instituting better protections against the American worker, we can prevent this occupation-wide depression of wages.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

what do you mean as far as specific training? like what they approve?
generally they will approve anything that is generally in demand. im going for accounting/finance. apparently accountants are in high demand in ohio right now so i was approved almost immediately.

I suppose that means accounting and financial services. Real corporate finance I wouldn't think we be taught at vocational schools. It takes more than an undergraduate degree to wrap your head around the complexities.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

laid off means your outta there...........If you think layoff's are heading your way I reccomend you find a new job and phuck them before they phuck you......corporate pencilpushers are destroying the economy

That is only part of it. The other part is people over living their budgets and owing too much money & wanting too much money for their jobs. Hence the reason many businesses can't afford to keep you employed. There is a reason people like to have things built in China.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

That is only part of it. The other part is people over living their budgets and owing too much money & wanting too much money for their jobs. Hence the reason many businesses can't afford to keep you employed. There is a reason people like to have things built in China.

Well, that is not all of it either. Even people who live within their budgets demand higher wages in times of extremly high inflation. Even people with solid savings are unable to accomdate inflation of 10-15% as experienced during the late 70s/early 80s. Furthermore, businesses themselves where exacerabating the issue by double-ordering now as a hedge against future cost increases.

 

[roarzorz 10+ year member]

My company is finishing up a massive layoff now. The only thing they did to help those employees was offer free professional written resumes and get them all setup for unemployment so it kicks in immediately without any wait. There wasn't any re-skilling or training offered.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Well, that is not all of it either. Even people who live within their budgets demand higher wages in times of extremly high inflation. Even people with solid savings are unable to accomdate inflation of 10-15% as experienced during the late 70s/early 80s. Furthermore, businesses themselves where exacerabating the issue by double-ordering now as a hedge against future cost increases.

Very true. But, it just annoys me that people always blame the business. Typical mindset of people I guess.

 

[regal8r 5,000+ posts]

i was in tech school with a lady that was laid off by goodyear and they paid for all of her schooling and tools..

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Very true. But, it just annoys me that people always blame the business. Typical mindset of people I guess.

Here's basically the crux of the issue. If business expects me to invest $10k in obtaining skills to help their business grow, then shouldn't I be compensated for that investment?

The issue is now EVERYONE is chasing the same investment. Like the stock bubble, housing bubble, etc. I believe we are in the midst of an education bubble. You have millions of graduates who are told throughout high school they HAVE to go to college or they will have a job shipped off to Mexico. Then you have these people laid off, learning the same skills. Way to much supply.

The models all say that America should focus on high-skill, capital intensive projects. However the models forget there is no demand. Because the competitive advantage of Pacific Rim countries is their willingness to work for $3/day, they are unable to afford our exports. The issue is very akin to the issue Henry Ford faced around the turn of the century.