Kenwood KDC X-993

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

no, all excelon have 4 or 5v preouts, 3 sets

really? because Kenwood USA begs to differ:

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/eXcelon/1-Din_CD_Receivers/KDC-X993

 

[chucky2 10+ year member]

The Kenwood website is wrong...if you download the user manual for the -993 and -693, it has the true spec's.

Be thankful there's even that much info on the Kenwood site. In my quest for dual wheel head units, I of course went to Kenwood's site. It was so badly done, I wrote a nastygram to them. A day or three later, I get an e-mail thanking me for my feedback.

I figured it was just the standard blowoff....however, someone at Kenwood must either have been mad enough, or embarrassed enough, or maybe, both, that when I went there a couple days later, they actually started putting those sections in for each of their head units. If you look at the -X493 page, it even has a Specifications tab that the other two lack.

Sadly, they neither can manage to get the info correct, or still actually link to the F'ing manual on their manual tab. Using the Search on their manual tab brings up nothing, even though if you go to their Support section, the manual is plainly downloadable.

Their site before my nastygram: 2/10

Their site after my nastygram/now: 5/10

Chuck

 

[bamaboy 5,000+ posts]

our kenwood book we have at the shop begs to differ also...and i know the 493's have 4v outputs, i would doubt they wouldnt step down on higher end models

but yea whoever runs kenwood's site should be back handed

 

[chucky2 10+ year member]

Just for completeness, here is the current direct link to the KDC-X993 and KDC-X693 manual (they share the same manual):

Kenwood KDC-X993 and Kenwood KDC-X693 Manual

Just go the last page, and start scrolling up from there. They're both listed as having 4v Pre-Out's.

Chuck

P.S. To reiterate: Kenwood's website *****. Still.

 

[Macklessdaddy 10+ year member]

X991>x993

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

our kenwood book we have at the shop begs to differ also...and i know the 493's have 4v outputs, i would doubt they wouldnt step down on higher end models

but yea whoever runs kenwood's site should be back handed

ah well thank you. stupid ****ing kenwood...hmm. Now i have to choose again...9887 or 993...

 

[chucky2 10+ year member]

@Macklessdaddy: With the extra's that the -X993 brings, does having the extra 1v that the -X991 brings really matter that much?

I'm not even a novice at this stuff...I'm seriously asking: Does the 1v difference between a 4v and 5v setup really matter that much? If the amp is getting the signal, isn't signal just signal?

Chuck

 

[MBrock4u 10+ year member]

Well. I guess you could say that is neither here nor there. I believe what you can count on is one sweet ass deck. I know how good the X-990 is and it does have 5 volt preouts. The sound quality on these high end decks are just fantastic! I would agree with the above statements though. Kenwood could be more detailed on their website.

 

[Macklessdaddy 10+ year member]

@Macklessdaddy: With the extra's that the -X993 brings, does having the extra 1v that the -X991 brings really matter that much?
I'm not even a novice at this stuff...I'm seriously asking: Does the 1v difference between a 4v and 5v setup really matter that much? If the amp is getting the signal, isn't signal just signal?

Chuck

Extras as in bluetooth and 5 line text?

Where did I mention anything about preout voltage?

 

[Macklessdaddy 10+ year member]

Look at the991 and 993 and you can see they added more stuff to impress a novice and took away some audio oriented stuff,hell this might be crazy but I can tell just by the msrp of 350.00 that they dumbed this deck down.

 

[chucky2 10+ year member]

@Macklessdaddy: The reason I said preout voltage is because that was the topic of discussion when you made your x991>x993 comment...so that's what I figured you were referring to.

Aside from the difference in preout voltage, what's been degraded in the x993 compared to the x991? Lesser DAC? Build Quality?

Chuck

 

[Macklessdaddy 10+ year member]

@Macklessdaddy: The reason I said preout voltage is because that was the topic of discussion when you made your x991>x993 comment...so that's what I figured you were referring to.
Aside from the difference in preout voltage, what's been degraded in the x993 compared to the x991? Lesser DAC? Build Quality?

Chuck

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It stepped down from a 4 band peq to 3 ,it has t/A but I bet it doesn't have 5 ch t/a and I'm pretty sure when all the specs are released that head to head the 991 is better

 

[MBrock4u 10+ year member]

Yeah, that X-991 is a piece of beauty!!

 

[SirSyko 10+ year member]

The XXV-01D is still their best model.

 

[Macklessdaddy 10+ year member]

The XXV-01D is still their best model.

sorry,no it's not