ok, well when i go up to erie next time, i will find my friend and see how much of a discount i can get or he can get for me and then ill think about it, get a job and probably go out and buy them. it will be a big improvement over my duals??? cause if its only tiny, then i wont spend 200 on them and keep my duals. i want to find some barely used very nice subs in a garage sale by some really stupid redneck who cant figure them out. that would be sweet. then after i bought them, id basically gouge out his eye and skull **** him to death...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif