Inexpensive sound deadening/insulation?

I assure everyone I will properly 'respect' my car... I've restored it and built it since I was 16 (owned it almost 10 years now) and have dumped piles of money, time and effort into it. No need to tell me I'm not 'respecting' my Mustang... it lives a pretty cushy life //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

I was exploring the peel and seal because other classic owners had reported it doing the job. From what I've read here (no doubt much more hardcore into the car audio game than most classic mustang restorers) I'll probably go with one of the cheaper options listed above.

Any other tips? Where can I get that cell foam stuff?

I appreciate everyone's input... thanks

 
I assure everyone I will properly 'respect' my car... I've restored it and built it since I was 16 (owned it almost 10 years now) and have dumped piles of money, time and effort into it. No need to tell me I'm not 'respecting' my Mustang... it lives a pretty cushy life //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
I was exploring the peel and seal because other classic owners had reported it doing the job. From what I've read here (no doubt much more hardcore into the car audio game than most classic mustang restorers) I'll probably go with one of the cheaper options listed above.

Any other tips? Where can I get that cell foam stuff?

I appreciate everyone's input... thanks
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com

 
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just finished one of my doors with second skin damp pro.

shit what not that hard to work with....5 sheets per door...

 
Im replacing the floor pans in my 67 falcon coupe, after im done i have some rubberized undercoating to go over everything. Then im using dynamat extreme from under the rear seat up to the toe boards. And ive got alot of 1/2" closed cell volara foam (used for gaming tables and stuff) thatll be laid under the carpet which is also vinyl backed. Should net a pretty sweet ride when im done, better than regular carpet with holes in the floor. Probably be quieter than a brand new caddy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Got any pics of the mustang?

 
Im replacing the floor pans in my 67 falcon coupe, after im done i have some rubberized undercoating to go over everything. Then im using dynamat extreme from under the rear seat up to the toe boards. And ive got alot of 1/2" closed cell volara foam (used for gaming tables and stuff) thatll be laid under the carpet which is also vinyl backed. Should net a pretty sweet ride when im done, better than regular carpet with holes in the floor. Probably be quieter than a brand new caddy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Got any pics of the mustang?
Rubberized undercoating.. that a spray or another layer of stuff? How many layers of various insulation does that come to? 3 or 4? Also... how'd you do your sub box (if you did one)? Sounds like a pretty well done project //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

My mustangs nothing too special... signal flare red with TTIIs, 351w/T5/other goodies. Dad painted it back in '02... could use a good wax and polish but she still looks alright. I'll have to post a pic when I get home as I don't have any good ones handy right now. Feel free to throw up some pics of the Falcon too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
Rubberized undercoating.. that a spray or another layer of stuff? How many layers of various insulation does that come to? 3 or 4? Also... how'd you do your sub box (if you did one)? Sounds like a pretty well done project //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif
My mustangs nothing too special... signal flare red with TTIIs, 351w/T5/other goodies. Dad painted it back in '02... could use a good wax and polish but she still looks alright. I'll have to post a pic when I get home as I don't have any good ones handy right now. Feel free to throw up some pics of the Falcon too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Dont have too many pics yet as i broke both my digital cameras, but heres the 2 i have. Its blue but the original owner i got it from painted the bumpers to match the car because they were rusted. Sometime in the future ill replace them. Redoing the interior right now, exterior will probably be the last thing i get to. Gonna be working on the stereo soon too. So far i have :

Pioneer 4100ub HU

PG RSD 5.25" front comps

Visonik 6x9s for the rear (got a good deal on them at biglots)

Bridged 4ch for 1 12" in 2 cuft ported

Ive got my eyes on a 351/c6 combo for mine too right now. How does it run with that combo you have? I had a 429 too but itd take too much work to fit that one. All i need is fairlane engine mounts and a new rear end for the 351. Shes got the little 6 in there now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif Runs **** good though, rebuilt the carb and havent had a problem with it. Mechanically everything is good, needs right side floorpans patched and thats about it for rust. I put a single in dual out flowmaster 40 on there and it sounds **** good for a 6 though. Gets alot of looks, dont see many falcons at all.

How bad was the rust in your mustang? Theyre usually alot worse than falcons from what i hear, im waiting for my new digi cam to get here and ill be able to get more pics of mine.

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These are some immediately post-paint pics (hosted by a girl I've never met 7 years ago... I'm amazed they're still up heh): http://www.angelfire.com/games2/alicia/sbt/index.html

Apparently I don't have any recent pictures with the current wheel/tire setup (got some from 2 years ago when i first put the wheel son and tires that were too big, but its got a major 4x4 look in those... i'll have to take some soon and post them). But imagine the above with 15" chrome torque thrust IIs and dropped an inch, and there you go.

My stereo will be kind of similar:

HUD: Pioneer DEH-P4000UB

Amp1: Kenwood KAC-8403 800w (60w RMS x 4), powering the speakers

6x9s: KFC-M6930 60W RMS

6.5s: Polk Audio DB651 60W RMS

Amp2/Sub - Hyphonics Zeus 600W/300Wx2 amp to a kicker CVR-12 w/ generic box (for now, might try to get one that works in the classic better)

Speaking of which, if you know any place that makes them or have any general tips for properly finding and installing a sub box so that I feel the sub and my whole car doesn't rattle... I'm all ears...

Don't dog those old 6's. They were renowned for being bulletproof and even without OD (my dad had a 200ci in his 65 mustang) could hit 20 mpg... pretty good for a car that old. With OD mid-to-high 20s is doable. But yeah... they are painfully slow.

351s are the way to go IMO... except for the whole changing plugs thing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif (except its not funny, it really is a pain in the ***).

351W's (what I have) are pretty much overgrown 302s... you can reuse all your accessories, brackets, etc (from a 289/302, not sure about the 6.. 289/302 stuff is easy to find though).. only things different are the intake and a few minor pieces. That being said, they're MUCH more durable... stronger block, bigger head bolts/con rod bolts, better oiling, etc... and more cubes is always better.

351C's are a bit of a different animal... they need more parts to get them in (though much of the 289/302 stuff still translates) and are usually a bit wider. Also not known for being quite as durable as the 'W', though plenty unless you're planning on really building them. The big advantage of a 'C' is those heads though... the '4V' heads are capable of 500 hp stock without breaking a sweat, where 302/351 stock heads start hitting their ceilings around 300-350 hp. Of course, 302s and 351s have piles of aftermarket heads that even things up quickly... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I also would advise you to get an AOD (if you wanna stay auto) or a T5. Overdrive is a wonderful thing... reasonable economy (my 66 will get 21-22 on the freeway, and thats with a cam/heads/bigger carb/etc), less engine wear, less noise, can run lower gears, etc. And conversions are cheap enough if you do your research. Nothing wrong with a C4 (what I used to have) or C6, except C6s are pretty heavy, but as soon as your car slips into OD for the first time you'll appreciate having it.

Rust wasn't tooooo bad on my car, but my car is a california car which helps. We had some in the engine bay and the cowl (the cowl is a major trouble spot on early mustangs, almost all of them are rusting as we speak). Had some minor traces on the floorpans too but threw some bondo at it and called it a day.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif As you can tell, I do enjoy talking about this.

 
i've had peel n seal on my decklid, rear deck and doors in my gm. its been 4 years and only had 1 corner let loose.. So for the poeple that its failed for dont really now how to install it...Im not sure if this goes for all deadners but install when its warm.....

BTW, mine smelled for 2 days.

 
So much sound will be absorbed that you could scream your lungs out and not be heard.Closed cell foam over that will stop road noise.
You'll need some very thick foam if you want to just used foam as a noise barrier.

i've had peel n seal on my decklid, rear deck and doors in my gm. its been 4 years and only had 1 corner let loose.. So for the poeple that its failed for dont really now how to install it...Im not sure if this goes for all deadners but install when its warm.....
BTW, mine smelled for 2 days.
You did some mass loading. Time to dampen... w/o water.

 
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