incriminator vs aq

[Bass Addict 10+ year member]

i see,so it basically comes down to wattage,looks,reliability, and begin box testing to see what sounds the best.probably the best info i could have got right there.i do have a small hatch and i have since put the sub up and left the port back.the one you see in my avy.yes,its a test box until i can build another one.doing it this way took alot of the boom out and putting more sq in as well as some spl.so i will stay with this config upon choosing a sub to my liking.so thanks hispls for the helpfull post ! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Nut Hair Trick 10+ year member]

Get an SPL meter first. There is no substitute for just building a ton of different boxes, different sizes, different tunings, different port sizes,all different orientations in your car. You'd be amazed what any given sub can do and the variety of different types of response you can get...even same box just pointed a different direction can be dramatic.

That is the thing, I have designed close to 10 different boxes for this sub, but with me being OCD, I just can not make a commitment on just one. But, you're right, the only way I will know for sure is to build different ones and see how it couples with my car. I've designed many ported boxes, tapered tline variants, and a rear loading horn.

About the tapered tline variant... when I had another set of subs, I sent off a design request to a VERY popular enclosure designer. Of course, one of the questions asked on the form was max outside dimensions. Well, what I got back was a design for a tapered tline variant for these subs using the exact max dimensions. Now, for someone who supposedly weighs your vehicle cabin geometry pretty high up in the design, how did he arrive to the exact dimensions that I gave him? This makes me question whether he actually takes cabin geometry as a major factor, but more so, the max box dimensions' geometry. Shortly after I got the design I sold the subs because I wanted to try something different, so I never built the box.

This peaked my interest and after looking at his design that I bought, I tried to figure out how he designed it. After playing with google sketchup, I have his process of designing this alignment down perfect. For any max dimensions given, I can design this t line variant exactly the way he does. It's all about angles, 45 degrees from each corner are landmarks for every panel in the box. There are different angles for the mouth that will give you whatever kind of taper ratio you want, you can either increase or decrease the angle. I sketched up the max dimensions for my box without looking at the lengths of his internal walls, 45's etc. When I was done, I had the same EXACT lengths/ internal dimensions that he had to a 1/100's of an inch.

Anyways, going back to what you said, I think I might try this alignment first in multiple tries at different enclosures just to see how it goes. People SWEAR by the guy's work. So hopefully my questions will be answered when I hear it. Is this as simple as I thought, and the guy just gets backed up on requests and is lazy, so he uses a quick 10 min method? Is this method for real? Or am I full of shit and not even be in the ballpark. It could be any of these, but we'll see.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

proof again americans are suckers of marketing more than anyone. how come people ask other idiots what is the best of whatever and then take their opinion. they are so naive and gullible. ****** shops tell their customers that their stuff is the best when it is over priced crap. notice how the american consumers goes out and gets what everyone else says is good without checking. in america people buy security systems for their houses and cars while getting ***** as consumers.

 

[ahole-ic]

proof again americans are suckers of marketing more than anyone. how come people ask other idiots what is the best of whatever and then take their opinion. they are so naive and gullible. ****** shops tell their customers that their stuff is the best when it is over priced crap. notice how the american consumers goes out and gets what everyone else says is good without checking. in america people buy security systems for their houses and cars while getting ***** as consumers.

If I were you, I would go to a country where you respected the people. You are not smarter than everyone so you should stop acting like it.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

I love america. how can I respect people who do these things. you see people like the ones mentioned above cause too much commotion. these are the people who cause too much this and that and are not productive. I bet you are an obama voter huh? I actually am a lot smarter than you because you dont realize this.

 

[ahole-ic]

I love america. how can I respect people who do these things. you see people like the ones mentioned above cause too much commotion. these are the people who cause too much this and that and are not productive. I bet you are an obama voter huh? I actually am a lot smarter than you because you dont realize this.

That's weird that you would say that. I just got done listening to Rush, and I have never voted for a democrat at that federal level and never will. You are CLEARLY not smarter than me. lol

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

doesnt matter. your internet site forum is far more dead than our economy. save yourself some money and take down that site. if you want to spend 650 dollars for a dd that is fine. I will by 2 audioque hdc3 12s and have enough money left over to make a hat that says BIG *****.

 

[ahole-ic]

doesnt matter. your internet site forum is far more dead than our economy. save yourself some money and take down that site.

Your attempt at witty comments is just sad. It costs me no money. I have lots of sites on the same server. You speak of what you do not know just like the OWS crowd. You seem to hate the people in America. You should go camp out and beg for money and criticize those of us who actually takes risks and try something new all from your mother's basement you pathetic wannabe piece of shiite.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Anyways, going back to what you said, I think I might try this alignment first in multiple tries at different enclosures just to see how it goes. People SWEAR by the guy's work. So hopefully my questions will be answered when I hear it. Is this as simple as I thought, and the guy just gets backed up on requests and is lazy, so he uses a quick 10 min method? Is this method for real? Or am I full of shit and not even be in the ballpark. It could be any of these, but we'll see.

You definitely won't know until you build it!

Also the one my friend paid for was a guy that talks about cabin geometry, etc. etc. and people swear by him (same guy actually loved a previous box he had by him), but considering he paid for a loud box and lost nearly 2db from a box by a local guy who doesn't claim any special knowledge of geometry and proprietary formulas.... who knows? Someone got lucky somewhere?

Anyway, I was going to pay the same guy for a box design...I'm glad I opted out. For the 50$ he would charge I can buy enough wood to build 1 big box or 2 or 3 small ones and test my **** self.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

doesnt matter. your internet site forum is far more dead than our economy. save yourself some money and take down that site. if you want to spend 650 dollars for a dd that is fine. I will by 2 audioque hdc3 12s and have enough money left over to make a hat that says BIG *****.

FYI, this sort of flaming isn't tolerated in tech sections. I'd suggest editing/deleting your post before a mod does it for you.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

my mothers basement? I love americans. real americans. not the ones I mentioned above. I think maybe I should have taken a risk with the stock market and thought I was better than everyone. then loose it. how much money do you make a year boy? the only risk you take is making people believe you have a big ***** because some avatar of your shows a guy whos beard is longer than his *****. I am done now. go on make yourself some more fundamental decisions in your life.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

hispls? ecrack started the flaming first. go back through and read it again.

 

[ahole-ic]

my mothers basement? I love americans. real americans. not the ones I mentioned above. I think maybe I should have taken a risk with the stock market and thought I was better than everyone. then loose it. how much money do you make a year boy? the only risk you take is making people believe you have a big ***** because some avatar of your shows a guy whos beard is longer than his *****. I am done now. go on make yourself some more fundamental decisions in your life.

How much money do you think I make? What do I do for a living? You made an assumption based on something you have no clue about... You are OWS through a through. You're a true liberal. You just want to sit around and criticize. LIke my website. Wow so I didn't have tons of money to spend on promotion. So I didn't get the best domain name. So I don't ***** myself on youtube. Yep my site is slow. How is yours? WHat have you made? What risks have you taken? Let's hear about you first and let's see a little proof. I won't even need to talk about what I have done to make you look foolish.

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

somebody is angry.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

well you dont need to talk about what you have done to make me look foolish. I know how boards are. when someone get their feeling hurt they do things like (tattoo poop and flies on someones back) remember my poor brother uses this computer because he cant keep the internet.

other than that remember who singled out who first with negative comments.