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[dr_peeb 10+ year member]

Stretching a thin tire onto a wide rim decreases a wheel’s standard tire width resulting in a smaller contact patch and less traction. It also adds strength to the sidewall, NOT weakness. I can't think of one time that a tire has failed on a drift event I have attended or seen.
Read what I wrote above. It results in a smaller contact patch, which is easier to break loose, and get sideways.

The look pretty low to me. MOST drift vehicles have extremely negative camber on the front, but limit the camber on the rear, which would result in understeer, making it difficult to control the car in a slide. Toe-in/toe-out is extremely advantageous as well.

Pretty sure OP argued his @ss off that his supercamber results in no less traction whatsoever, i.e. no less safe than any other car.

I don't see any supercamber in those pics. Maybe a little camber, but not supercamber. I think I have this right that VIP's love only supercamber, not regular camber.

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

Stretching a thin tire onto a wide rim decreases a wheel’s standard tire width resulting in a smaller contact patch and less traction. It also adds strength to the sidewall, NOT weakness. I can't think of one time that a tire has failed on a drift event I have attended or seen.

It does NOT add strength to the sidewall... It adds PERCIEVED sidewall stiffness... And since the tire is being used in a manner in which it was not originally intended to do so, it is subjected to failures uncommon with normal use.

You literally posted the worst misinformation in the thread.

Please do your research ahead of time.

http://driftjapan.com/blog/car-parts/drifting-hipari-style-tires/

Might be a good read for you.

Good job!

You need to stick to what you know, and apparently that is sending pictures of your package to guys on a forum.

My research has been done, I think you should do some more, because that first part you posted about sidewall stiffness is a clear sign of lack of information. There is literally no way that you can alter a materials physical properties without altering said material, and stretching a tire does not alter the material. Stretching a tire makes the tire work in a way in which it was not designed to be used, and can lead to catastrophic failure, and when they fail, they fail HARD.

Do some more research on the subject, then come back and try again. It is clear in your lack of understanding that you dont have the knowledge to form a valid argument, yet.

 

[WOT]

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUgly **** car

 

[Ohioguy 10+ year member]

hoss seems to be one of the very few who prove valid points in this 115 page arguement. if you others are gonna say something, at least make it entertaining or stop arguing common sense just to try and win.

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

It does NOT add strength to the sidewall... It adds PERCIEVED sidewall stiffness... And since the tire is being used in a manner in which it was not originally intended to do so, it is subjected to failures uncommon with normal use.



My research has been done, I think you should do some more, because that first part you posted about sidewall stiffness is a clear sign of lack of information. There is literally no way that you can alter a materials physical properties without altering said material, and stretching a tire does not alter the material. Stretching a tire makes the tire work in a way in which it was not designed to be used, and can lead to catastrophic failure, and when they fail, they fail HARD.

Do some more research on the subject, then come back and try again. It is clear in your lack of understanding that you dont have the knowledge to form a valid argument, yet.

Then please, show me the result of a catastrophic failure, please and thank you.

Until then, I will continue to post pictures of cars with literally hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in them, that are insured... That don't seem to have a problem with this sidewall issue you claim to know so much about.

You'd think these companies would have enough sense to contact experts, like yourself, and check into these issues to see if they're throwing money away on a ticking timebomb!

 

[dr_peeb 10+ year member]

Two high posters duking it out. Niiiiiice.

 

[dr_peeb 10+ year member]

hoss seems to be one of the very few who prove valid points in this 115 page arguement. if you others are gonna say something, at least make it entertaining or stop arguing common sense just to try and win.

Bet you got supercamber too.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

So true. Unless ... somebody wants to argue some more about whether or not this looks good (it does not)

Arguments about something subjective is cool.... but cool is subjective. Maybe it's warm. Objectively warm like your cooch.

 

[Crimson Boom 10+ year member]

OPs car is FAR beyond those

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

hoss seems to be one of the very few who prove valid points in this 115 page arguement. if you others are gonna say something, at least make it entertaining or stop arguing common sense just to try and win.

Hoss's information is wrong. It's as simple as that.

The strength in a sidewall is NOT limited to the compound that the tire is made from, it's the bond it makes with the wheel in the seat, related to the strength of the bead seat.

I still have NEVER seen a tire failure that wasn't related to improper care/dryrot/manufacturing.

It's common knowledge in any racing scene, regardless of usage, that to reduce sidewall flex, you go with a minimum sized tire on the maximum sized wheel.

 

[dr_peeb 10+ year member]

Arguments about something subjective is cool.... but cool is subjective. Maybe it's warm. Objectively warm like your cooch.

You sir know nothing about the warmth of my cooch.

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

You sir know nothing about the warmth of my cooch.

but we can all see the sand in it.

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[icandoit42069]

but we can all see the sand in it.
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same goes for you fyi. just stfu already and quit sounding like a whiny bitch. your "points" are opinions and not facts. the style is retarded, PERIOD, POINT, BLANK!

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

same goes for you fyi. just stfu already and quit sounding like a whiny bitch. your "points" are opinions and not facts. the style is retarded, PERIOD, POINT, BLANK!

How's Maria?

Any luck getting unbanned?

Also, your English could stand some polishing, and because you used CAPS LOCK doesn't mean it's right.

You're a fucking ***. PERIOD, POINT, BLANK!

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