Im gonna buck the mainstream idea about caps...

[nsxxtreme 10+ year member]

Do you even know who Richard Clark is?

Yes I know who he is an I have read his article and its taken completely out of context. Their lies the problem, every person that gets on the internet reads that post and assumes all capacitors are equal and they don't work. Well they would be wrong not all caps are equal, but it's not worth explaining to them that because most of them can't understand the concepts in that article to begin with. You would have to hand hold them all the way through and even the you would lose 80% of the readers. Find the link posted earlier it described things somewhat well and even mentions Richard Clark oooooohhhhh ahhhhh //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

So I guess my 'reading and comprehension' ****. But aparently they are just good enough to see yet another point where you contradict yourself. You aren't sure what makes me think I cant find the ESR of Stinger caps huh? Maybe... because YOU just stated as such in your previous reply?

at the time I made the post I was unable to locate the information which I always state what I know as fact. If I can't find something I clearly state that. If you chose to read instead of pick things out you only want hear you might have seen the post right below that one when I found what I was looking for which clearly showed the ESR. Arguing with you is like arguing with my GF lol.

You contradict your own points.

Where? My point has never changed.

You dragged this joke thread back from the dead in an attempt to show up the people on this board, while looking super smart in the process. I see no other reasoning for your method of searching this board for a new Stinger cap.

Actually I came here looking to buy one which I believe I stated a couple times.

That's been the whole point of this thread, you nit wit. And yet you just want to argue... oh and buy a cap that makes no noticeable difference.

So we have stuped to name calling now? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif I never said it wouldn't make any noticeable difference? Don't put word in my mouth those are your words not mine. Just because you probably wont get an audible difference doesn't mean there isn't a noticeable difference. The difference is where you and I are looking to find an improvement.
If any of you have one of these caps to sell and want to unload it go ahead a PM me. I recently purchased an amp from this board so I can have someone vouch that you'll get your money and I use the same username everywhere so you don't have to worry about any scamming.

ok I'm done here feel free to have the last word.

 

[SethPhillips 5,000+ posts]

Things caps are good for:
1) artificial reef

2) target practice (mentioned above)

3) bludgeoning your spouse into submission

4) neat way to numb your tongue

5) will power your 12-volt ***** long enough for a quickie

6) will work AS a *****, once the power runs out

7) a cap, plus a bucket of water and a blindfold, makes a great party game

8) caps, the other white meat

9) portable battery acid dispenser

10) they fit neatly in xmas stockings for those who have been naughty, and wont stain like coal

tooo funny...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Audibly no I would not say that. I have not done any testing requarding sound quality impovments and I would highly doubt that anyone would be able to hear the difference.
Your amp should runner cooler and you wont get the annoying flickering. And if this is all your trying to do then great.

So is your amp running especially hot or are you getting a lot of flickering? I ask because I noticed that you have asked several people if they would sell you a cap.

NVM, I see where you just asked again to buy one, but you may want to ask around for some advice about alternatives to solve your problems.

 

[nsxxtreme 10+ year member]

NVM, I see where you just asked again to buy one, but you may want to ask around for some advice about alternatives to solve your problems.

lol I don't need any advice, I can handle that on my own. I've been into car audio long enough to know what I am doing. First amp was an Autotek MM bass thrust series the blue labeled version. Just sold a soundstream 10.2 (impossible to find) and the original picasso. Great amps sad to see them go just didn't make any sense anymore.

Please teach me a lesson and sell me your paper weights priced accordingly of course.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

lol I don't need any advice, I can handle that on my own. I've been into car audio long enough to know what I am doing. First amp was an Autotek MM bass thrust series the blue labeled version. Just sold a soundstream 10.2 (impossible to find) and the original picasso. Great amps sad to see them go just didn't make any sense anymore.
Please teach me a lesson and sell me your paper weights priced accordingly of course.

I am just not sure why you are having dimming problems. It would be better if you told us what you are currently running rather than what you used to own. That way we could walk you through this and see if we can figure out what the problem is.

 

[nsxxtreme 10+ year member]

I am just not sure why you are having dimming problems. It would be better if you told us what you are currently running rather than what you used to own. That way we could walk you through this and see if we can figure out what the problem is.

Is this your way of trying to refute that I don't know what I am talking about? LOL I don't need any help but thanks for the offer. I'm fine thank you.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

Is this your way of trying to say that I don't know what I am talking about? LOL I don't need any help but thanks for the offer. I'm fine thank you.

Fixed. But seriously, instead of arguing you could spend your time making a thread telling us in detail what problems you are having with your electrical system and then we could help you fix the problem.

Now, you said that you already bought one cap. Do you have it installed?

 

[nsxxtreme 10+ year member]

Fixed. But seriously, instead of arguing you could spend your time making a thread telling us in detail what problems you are having with your electrical system and then we could help you fix the problem.
Now, you said that you already bought one cap. Do you have it installed?

You're assuming I need or desire your help. I do not. That's the problem with these discussions and its why I don't try and explain. People that have no idea what they are talking about come in and start making noise. Noise that has nothing to do with the topic at hand but distracts enough from the original topic that everyone is lost.

Let me finish by saying I have no idea what I am talking about. I hold a masters degress in electrical engineering and design power supplies from time to time. But I waste company money by spending money on capacitors I'm waiting to be fired any day now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

enjoy.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

So you currently work for a car audio installation company?

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Yes I know who he is an I have read his article and its taken completely out of context. Their lies the problem, every person that gets on the internet reads that post and assumes all capacitors are equal and they don't work.

You are the one doing all the assuming around here. We are all too dumb for you to bother explaining yourself to. We're all just a bunch of internet commandos, far beneath your knowledge, your time, or your effort. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Let me finish by saying I have no idea what I am talking about. I hold a masters degress in electrical engineering and design power supplies from time to time.

Oh, and here I thought you said this wasn't about people's education. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
You are obviously a knowledgeable guy, but wow are you an ***. Id started off this debate with you by saying we were 'all ears' if you can prove a cap's value to the system. Your reply ever since is you wont waste your time. Nice attitude from a guy who cusses out this board for its supposed ignorance. We cant all have master's degree's in electrical engineering, and your attiude of needing to 'talk down to us' to make us understand is beneath you... is absurd at best. Again I must ask, how ever do you fit your enormous brain through a normal man-sized doorway? or maybe I should ask, how do you fit your ego through it?

As for your Stinger paperweight, god forbid I missed the link you provided in the thread below. I will admit the advertised ESR is the lowest Ive ever seen for a 1farad cap, by a long shot. I find it suspect. But even if its true... I'll do the math later and see if its low enough to really make any difference. Seeing as you are just too **** important to do that for us, Mr. Masters in Electrical Engineering.

But I waste company money by spending money on capacitors I'm waiting to be fired any day now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Oh, so your job, as an electrical engineer, is to order stiffening capacitors for car audio applications? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Or, are you, with your vast brainpower, trying to extrapolate this discussion to cover ALL uses for capacitors? Nah, someone as smart as you would never make such a foolish mental error, right? But Im curious, why would you make such a comment then? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif
I thought you were done with this thread? lol Here, read this... http://www.audiogroupforum.com/csforum/showthread.php?t=32985&highlight=censoring+alive Richard Clark (yes, Mr. oooohAaaah hiself) spells it out in his own words/math. If you can prove him wrong, go earn your $5k. Oh that's right, you admit caps make no audible difference. You just want your amps to run cooler. lol

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

People hiding behind educational degrees make me laugh. Kinda like the guys who prove time and again that they don't really know anything about car audio, but when called on it say that they're an MECP certified installer.

I've one into the math on here more times than I care to remember and what it boils down to is that assuming that your alt is charging at 14.4V and your battery will hold 12V under load, you have total usable storage in a zero ESR cap of 0.5 amp-seconds per Farad of capacitance. If that's all the more storage that you need, knock yourself out. It might be OK on kick drum where the transients are fairly brief in duration and widely spaced, but for any really dynamic music or something with heavy bass, you're gonna need a really big bank of capacitors. You're also going to need to find low ESR caps and those aren't cheap. For the price of the cap bank required, you're better off with a good battery and money in your pocket.

You mentioned that the alt is an AC device. So what? It has a rectifier and the battery acts as your ripple filter as do the caps in the power supply of the amp. Not getting any point behind mentioning that as it has no bearing on the discussion.