If JL is good but overpriced, at what price point should they be?

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Read a book.

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

so lets say i had a box tuned to 38 and it was peaking hard (mechanically) at 31... if i decreased tuning to 31 er 32 it would do better?

Yes, the design of the enclosure would still have control over the movement of the cone.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Yes, the design of the enclosure would still have control over the movement of the cone.

is that the same for sealed? i had a 10w6v2 built to specs on quite a bit of power, but it peaked mechanically at 43-48 hz range and eventually the surround tore so should i have made a bigger box?

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

Read a book.

when i give my opinion, you guys tell me to just listen and ask questions to other people...

when i ask questions you blow me off //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

BASS boost anyone?

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

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**** this caps filter.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I bass boost my tweets //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

Why would you do that? You don't trust the the specs for a port or enclosure given by the people who designed the subs? I would think they know what works best for there equipment.
If I'm wrong please do educate me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif That's what we're all here for anyways right?

Since when does JL know what I want out of my system? I've tried JL spec enclosures and they have always lacked in low end. I want a system that has authority around 25-35hz and they just don't do it for me.

is that the same for sealed? i had a 10w6v2 built to specs on quite a bit of power, but it peaked mechanically at 43-48 hz range and eventually the surround tore so should i have made a bigger box?

No. In a ported enclosure, the cone movement is very limited around the tuning frequency of the enclosure. This is due to a high pressure impedance seen by the sub from the enclosure. The cone movement is controlled and limited slightly above and below tuning (usually by about 1/2 octave but that will vary with port area). Below that point, the port actually acts like an open circuit (or a hole in the box) and the sub begins to act like it is in a free air environment. Above that point, the sub begins to act like it is in a sealed enclosure with the equivalent volume.

In a sealed enclosure, the cone movement is directly related to the size of the enclosure. The larger the enclosure, the farther the cone movement given the same input power.

If any of the above is worded funny, it's probably because I have had a little too much to drink and I didn't really double check to make sure stuff made sense.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Read a book.

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[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

Buy some land, buy some land, man **** spinning rims.

 

[crunktimes.com 5,000+ posts]

i'll upgrade eventually but first i'm gunna...

raise my back seat 2 inches with spacers and longer bolts...

drop 3 10w6v2 ported in place of the 2 10w3's sealed...

and replace the 500/1 with a 1000/1...

i've allready got the stuff laying around just trying to find time to build this STOOPID complicated F-Glass ported box...

it's actually gunna end up more like a T-line because of the way the space under the seat is more shallow in the back then in the front...

basically i'm thinking about the 10's all front-firing with 2 ports down firing on either side into the floorboard recession (if you can picture that) and whats more of a headache, it's all gotta be F-glass no MDF, so that means i'l be puttin about 30 layers on haha

should be schweet if i ever get it done... i'll post pics

anyone ever heard of front-firing subs/down-firing ports in a truck, i'm wondering if it will sound good... i love down firing subs in a truck but i just don't think i'll have the space to do it like i would want

You ain't gunna do jack shit.

 

[Ignatowski 5,000+ posts]

W7s are dinosours and 800 bucks at Crutchfeild

IMO they are 400.00 woofers(300 for sub +100 for name)

and an FI Q will own a W7 -

 

[Grinder1989 5,000+ posts]

I skipped over most of this thread but to answer OP, the price of JL shouldn't change. Usually, if you could sell two identical thing (no relation to JL, just a point) one for less money, your going to sell the cheaper one out first. JL doesn't need to compete because JL is like the Rolex of woofers. Sure I can save 10 grand and buy a super nice watch instead of a Rolex (maybe even on with better movement) but I don't own a Rolex. Its the same with Ferrari's. Sure you can buy a faster car but it's not a Ferrari. People like to see the name. No one gave a shit when they first saw my sub, but went crazy over some other kid's pair of 10W3's. But then they heard mine. I just think JL is just doing what they can to make money. Just think, Rolex continues to sell watches at high prices because people continue to buy them for that price, so why on earth would you lower the price?

 

[Pyro_By_Nature 5,000+ posts]

W7s are dinosours and 800 bucks at CrutchfeildIMO they are 400.00 woofers(300 for sub +100 for name)

and an FI Q will own a W7 -

Would you mind getting off of FI's sack for a minute?

The Q will not, "own" a W7. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Truthfully, low end output wise I don't even think it can measure up TO the w7, none the less "own" it.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Would you mind getting off of FI's sack for a minute?
The Q will not, "own" a W7. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Truthfully, low end output wise I don't even think it can measure up TO the w7, none the less "own" it.

comparing tech in the 2 woofers is a joke too. I dont' care how new Fi is, there is nothing new about the design, uses older motor topology than the W7 I'd bet.