Ideas for potentially puttin a Wall in my Blazer

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Ok, try and look at things logically. First, you need to determine if this is going to be a daily driver or competition setup. Since you want to run that much power, and if you value any aspect of your hearing at all, this should be a competition setup. Now, what's the goal at a comp? To get as loud as possible. Therefore, your choice in subs should reflect that. Don't go to a comp running 6000 watts on four SQ-oriented woofers, run 6000 watts to subs that are highly (if not completely) SPL-oriented. The IDMAX is an amazing driver, but for all-out SPL, it just doesn't cut it. It's not conducive to competitions. Put one or 2 ID's in another truck for your daily driver setup, and run some XXX's or what have you in the competition setup.

Also, I don't understand what you're talking about the BX1500D being a better match-up for the IDMAX than the XXX. 1500 is more than enough to get a XXX moving and pounding like crazy, ask me or the countless other people on this forum who run the exact same setup. Also, you need to remember that if you were to run 1500 to an IDMAX, you run a chance of blowing it, and sense that is classified as user error, it could completely void your warranty (depending on where you buy them.) If you wanted to cut down the risk of blowing it, you'd have to put it in a smaller box.................and small boxes and competitions just don't go together. They're like oil and water.

And another thing, having 4 subs and a wall is going to bump you up a few classes, where you'll be going against hardcore competitors. I'd hate to go into a competition in the modified class, and finish in last place because I was running four SQ woofers.

Bottom line - don't get the IDMAX's if you plan to compete.

 

[smullen 10+ year member]

Have you read the whole thread or are you just comming in on the end and throwing in your Commets???

You tell me I need to decide if its a daily driver or not...

A few Post back I said...

It won't be driven every day as I have 2 other trucks, but I will drive it as much as I can... but I am building it, mostly for Car shows (to Show off, not SPL Comps)...

You ask me if I value my hearing..

A few Post back I said...

(I can turn 3 of the amps off too, for normal listening).

Like I posted before, my current system just isin't cutting it ... Its not overly loud (althogh it sounds good) but people walk by and say wow, 3 JLs, and 1400Watts... Great... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

I want something that will make everyone at shows and (mostly) myself go HOLY SH!T!!! I'm doing this for fun....

Then u said....

Don't go to a comp running 6000 watts on four SQ woofers, run 6000 watts to subs that are highly (if not completely) SPL-oriented.

I never said it was for COMPS, that was your assumption...

I did say...

I just want it LOUD and Clean!!!! I want it to Hit hard and Deep but have SQ... NOT Just a Burp BOX....

So in Summary, I want it all.... I want it to look great looking install... I want it Hella Loud, and sound Hella Good... BTW, I got Eclipse Point Source Reference Series MiDs/Tweets for Front (and rear if I have them or 2 sets for front instead)... and 2 125x2 amps for them.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Sheesh

I never thought I'd get (Ohh I dunno what to call it) for having to much power...

Its like everyone in the world has 75 amps and 150 subs, hits 199DBs, has SPL trophies out the Ying yang, I break slightly over a 1K Watts and now I'm a freak...

Now everyone is the SPL Police.... Tellin me I'm a nut, I don't need that much power for a daily driver... I have a Volume Knob, just like you have a Gas Pedal, you don't have to drive 120MPH, becasue you can...

I don't want to start trouble, I'm not flaming anyone... I just want to build a bad *** system that I can be proud of... NOT what I have now...

Also, as a BIG BIG Bonus, I'd love to get in Auto Sound and Security or some other Stero mag for having a Cool install...

Wow, I never knew designing a system could be so fun...

BTW, I do apprecieate all the help from everyone... It sometimes gets rough, casue we are all opinionated.... I know I am..:thumbsup

Ok, try and look at things logically. First, you need to determine if this is going to be a daily driver or competition setup. Since you want to run that much power, and if you value any aspect of your hearing at all, this should be a competition setup. Now, what's the goal at a comp? To get as loud as possible. Therefore, your choice in subs should reflect that. Don't go to a comp running 6000 watts on four SQ woofers, run 6000 watts to subs that are highly (if not completely) SPL-oriented. The IDMAX is an amazing driver, but for all-out SPL, it just doesn't cut it. Put one or 2 ID's in another truck for your daily driver setup, and run some XXX's or what have you in the competition setup. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Ok, well, I personally think it's a waste of money. You can get everything you're looking for and more with a lot less. Why spend so much money on the three amps and subs and the alternator upgrades and all that if you're just going to use it to show off and make other people say holy shit? Is the thousands of dollars worth having other people say "yeah man, that's a really great system"? Especially when you can get very loud, have great SQ, and make people say holy shit with just one sub? Put your mind to it and you can have a system with amazing SQ and hitting in the mid to high 140's with one sub and amp. I just personally don't see any logic in it. But to each his own.

 

[namster44 10+ year member]

I know what you are saying Gaunlet, but if this guy has money to burn, why the hell not. Go get it meter and let up know how loud it really is later too.

 

[smullen 10+ year member]

Well I can sorta understand that... Or see why u would want to go that route, but like you said, thats just you...

(well, maybe alot of other on here too) //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif nothing at all wrong with that...

To me, My Blazer is like canvas.. Its up to me to paint a wild and outragious picture... I am not really building just so others will say HOLY Shit, I did say that, but it was just an example... of the type of level I want it...

I have had a ton of systems that were pretty decent. A lot of people would be happy with the one I got.. Not me...

I have been building decent run off the mill ""Me too"" systems for years....

I'm not loaded, but I make decent money... I just want to go all out once...

Its a Hobby and an addiction I guess..

Either you get it or ya don't....

I don't need the X box, the rear looking Mini-Video cam, the moving linear actuated amp racks, 6000+ Watts, Air bags, 20 in rims, Ghost Flames, tweed or any of the crap I have...

But I want it.. I want too see just how far I can go and have fun....

The fellas from my car club and I entered many car shows over the summer and had a great time... This winter they'll be comming up with new ideas for their rides.... I'm comming up with mine... There is always someone that has something cooler, louder better or whatever...

Man.... We got way offa course...

Back on track.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

My last questions on topic were in response to mattj's Post

He said ""Personally id go with 4 XXXs or 4 incriminator death penaltys.""

I asked why what was his factual reasons? I'd like to know what he based his descisions on....

and before that snova031 Suggested

""One 1500 per XXX is plenty of power for it...""

I said are you sure that 1500 is plenty when the specs for that sub are 1600-2500 Watts... I don't mean to be pesty, I just don't want to spen a sh!tload of cash again and not be happy...

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Ok, well, I personally think it's a waste of money. You can get everything you're looking for and more with a lot less. Why spend so much money on the three amps and subs and the alternator upgrades and all that if you're just going to use it to show off and make other people say holy shit? Is the thousands of dollars worth having other people say "yeah man, that's a really great system"? Especially when you can get very loud, have great SQ, and make people say holy shit with just one sub? Put your mind to it and you can have a system with amazing SQ and hitting in the mid to high 140's with one sub and amp. I just personally don't see any logic in it. But to each his own.

 

[smullen 10+ year member]

I know what you are saying Gaunlet, but if this guy has money to burn, why the hell not. Go get it meter and let up know how loud it really is later too.

I wouldn't say I have money to burn at all, but from time to time I got some chedda I can spend here and there... I just choose to spend it on my Blazer...

My Girlfriend hates it....

The way I see it...

She spends her money on Ciggerates, Collecting stupid girly stuff, and expensive jewlery

One of my friends spends all his money on Hunting trips 4 days a week. I know he like it..

another my other friends spends all his mony on his race cars. Talk about money... He can't drive 195 all day... But he sure has the power too

another of my other friends spends all his mony on usless crap in his garage. But he likes it

another of my other friends spends all his mony on going out clubing, drinking and partying, but he likes it

another of my other friends spends all his mony on drugs and is in and outta jail alot.. I guess he likes it he keeps it up...

another spends his money on Video games and DVDs and crap....

I spend mine on my Blazer...

Anyway... If I ever get it back together again, I will post pics and results...

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

One BX1500D is great for a single XXX, that's the setup I myself have. I personally wouldn't want to run that much to a single IDMAX, as you run a great risk of blowing it.

 

[smullen 10+ year member]

One BX1500D is great for a single XXX, that's the setup I myself have. I personally wouldn't want to run that much to a single IDMAX, as you run a great risk of blowing it.

Cool, thats the type of anser I was looking for...
I am really liking the way the XXXs look... (not that I'd buy a sub on looks)

Its a 12" right? I'm guessing here...

If you don't mind (50 Questions here) //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nerd.gif.c6fa51ddf7ff75f1c0371fbc648f70ae.gif

What type of ride do you have it in?

What type/size enclosure is it in?

Do you know what it hits?

How does it sound as far as SQ? ( don't know if you built it for SQ or SPL)

Would you like more power to it if you had it avalible or is it about perfect?

Hey, I been see'in people post the term/word ""SQL"", its even on RE site..

Do they mean, a measure of the level of SQ or a combo of SPL and SQ???

If its the later, I dig it.. Loud and clear, is good too me.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Thanks again..

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

The XXX comes in 10", 12", 15", and 18" versions, I own a 15".

Type of ride - 1989 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera SL

Box - 4.32 cuft ported box, tuned to 29hz.

What does it hit - No idea, I really don't care.

SQ - I like it a lot. I wouldn't say it's an amazing SQ driver, but I was very suprised as to how clean and accurate it sounds.

Would I add more power if I had the funds for it? Perhaps a little bit, but I couldn't stomach much more for a daily driver setup. I love it as it is right now.

SQL is a mix of SQ and SPL.

I'm going to tighten up all my connections and shorten some wires tomorrow, so I'll take some more pics, and I'll attempt to take a pic of the excursion if I can.....

 

[mattj 5,000+ posts]

and I'll attempt to take a pic of the excursion if I can.....

i got one right here. image is huge but oh well.

 

[smullen 10+ year member]

NIce!!!!!!!

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

the tripple x is a sq type woofer as well, when i was talking to them (as far as becoming a dealer) they said the se's (even though smaller) were better spl subs. the id max is a little lacking compared to other sql subs on the ultra low end but it more than makes up for it in higher freq bass resonse...with 4 i dont think you would miss a beat. i say trust your gut either way i hardly consider it a loss.

 

[mattj 5,000+ posts]

i never played slipknot on my sub before and i was seriously impressed when it kept up with the insane drumpbeat of like 10 hits a second..

i was in awe

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[havoc06 10+ year member]

You know what i think man, i think you should get the H2s. Ha just kidding, just wondering how many people i would piss off with that response. I like the set up man, looks pretty tight. I duno if you mentioned it earlier or not, but are you planning on having it sealed or ported? And aare you mainly going for spl or looks in terms of showingthe vehicle?

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

any of the subs xxx, h2or the idmax would be great..a lil different but great.