IA 20.1 vs. Orion 2500- head to head matchup

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

SHUT THE **** UP! EVERYONE!

I've offered to put my 20.1 on the table to flakko, anybody want to put up their Orion?

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

i'd put up my orion if i still had it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[Bumpin' Yota 10+ year member]

here is what nick said to you in his first response:

you also dont know how underrated the 20.1 is

this is fact since you dont own one. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

along with the fact that you don't know jack shit about impedence rise

This is implied by the fact that you claimed that the orion 2500 would run at 0.5ohm daily. Such a conclusion COULD be off base, but I was inclined to agree with Nick. As the transducer plays different frequencies, the back emf, and consequently the reactive impeadance, is going to rapidly vary all over the place. In some frequencies it may be up to 8ohms, even when the dcr is 0.5, in others it may drop to 0.8...

not to mention that "2500d" is not running at no where near a .5ohm load

this is correct, see above

if it were it'd be nothing but smoke and a distant memory

I cant say one way or the other, but im inclined to agree. ANY amp seeing a real time 0.5ohm reactive is going to have a tough time living... I can think of only 2 amps that MIGHT operate under 0.5 reactive and the 20.1 is one of those...

ohm's law is a ***** isnt it?

again truthful. The usual MO of people is they think "well if this amp does 2500 at 1ohm, itll do 5000 at 1/2ohm, and 10,000 at 1/4ohm!" Sorry life doesnt work that way.

Sure stang may have come across a little rough, but if that bothers you you need thicker skin.

/thread

 

[TooLowTooGo 10+ year member]

SHUT THE **** UP! EVERYONE!
I've offered to put my 20.1 on the table to flakko, anybody want to put up their Orion?

i have an orion 2500 and 2 1200's

send it over here

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

i have an orion 2500 and 2 1200'ssend it over here

No, there aren't too many people I'd be willing to send that thing to Flakko is one of the few.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

dude i was implying that if you had 2 dual 2 ohm subs you could wire them in parallel and the orion will be stable to run those subs daily where most amps wouldn't. (make a note i said most as i'm sure some dork will take it out of context) i also stated that the orion is rated at 2500 and the IA is rated at 1800. i also stated prices on where both can be purchased at authorized dealers. if it makes him feel better to do shit slinging on a forum go ahead.

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

this started when i just posted obvious facts about both amplifiers. not my problem he has sel-esteem issues and wants to start a shit storm.

lmao i have self esteem issues

dude you need to see a shrink

or take some psychology classes in college //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif...

...or go to college...

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

lmao i have self esteem issues
dude you need to see a shrink

or take some psychology classes in college //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif...

...or go to college...

i do go to college and have taken an intro to psych. class. that's how i came up with my assumptions and not from out of my ***.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Ok, both of you shut up.... take your pissing contest to the lounge.

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

dude i was implying that if you had 2 dual 2 ohm subs you could wire them in parallel and the orion will be stable to run those subs daily where most amps wouldn't. (make a note i said most as i'm sure some dork will take it out of context) i also stated that the orion is rated at 2500 and the IA is rated at 1800. i also stated prices on where both can be purchased at authorized dealers. if it makes him feel better to do shit slinging on a forum go ahead.

Your not gonna touch an orion 2500d in a brick and mortar shop for 550 bucks...not gonna happen, however the 20.1 you can come close //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

explain how i can get a cadence z5000 to run at .75 ohm actual load bridged...

(this amp is designed to run at 4ohms bridged mono, or 2ohms stereo)

MANY MANY MANY amps will run far under their 'rated' load...

due to impedence rise with heat of the coil....and box rise as well....

I'm not slinging shit - Your being a fricking idiot...

Making bogus claims about things that you know nothing of and basing all of your comments on the 20.1 on nothing but heresay.

Stop...your only making yourself look more foolish everytime you post //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

i do go to college and have taken an intro to psych. class. that's how i came up with my assumptions and not from out of my ***.

wooooooooooooooooooot

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[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Your not gonna touch an orion 2500d in a brick and mortar shop for 550 bucks...not gonna happen, however the 20.1 you can come close //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

you obviously haven't talked to hccafan?

also what comments have i made on the IA that is hearsay? all i said about the amp was that it was rated at 1800 watts rms according to IA.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Ok, both of you shut up.... take your pissing contest to the lounge.

sERIOUSLY.

 

[NDMstang65 10+ year member]

you obviously haven't talked to hccafan?
also what comments have i made on the IA that is hearsay? all i said about the amp was that it was rated at 1800 watts rms according to IA.

i talk to shane daily lol

now is shane a brick and mortar business?

nope.

you can sit down now.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

i talk to shane daily lol
now is shane a brick and mortar business?

nope.

you can sit down now.

what difference does that make?