IA 20.1 vs. Orion 2500- head to head matchup

subincali - you are making assumptions about me based on what you have found to be true about other competitors... I do not know you... I have only read the bs you put people thru on the internet. Why you have targeted me, I have no idea... you would think that you would be smart enough to realize that I am among friends here, and that anything you say about me reflects badly upon yourself. Furthermore, you are getting further and further from the point of this topic... nobody is trying to compare a 20.1 to a matts, or a memphis. Had you personally asked me what I've found about the 20.1 vs any other amp I have tested I would have given you factual results... good or bad about the 20.1. The fact is that the 20.1's have only been available for a short time now, and there havnt been enough people to use them yet for the general public to get a feel for what kind of value they are getting for their money. The fact also remains that the 20.1's are purpose built amplifiers... just because you dont understand the rating provided doesnt give you the right to place it ahead or behind any other amp out there, especially since you've never used one yourself. Lets use your philosophy and compare your beloved powerbass 3000... where does it stand compared to a T3000? They're both rated at 3000 watts... so why is it that a strapped pair of powerbasses still cant hang with a single T3? If you have been in the game for 7 yrs as you claim, you should know that the rating assigned to an amplifier arent always the best indicator of what kind of power you can expect under normal everyday circumstances. Most of the guys on this forum seem to understand this better than you do, hence the reason for this thread. The easiest way to compare one amp to another is to put them head to head, and obviously anybody that has used a 20.1 aint worried about it's capabilities. So... until you get your hands on a 20.1 and do a nice scientific comparison between it and anything else, please stop second guessing it's capabilities... it's doing nothing but reducing what little bit of credibility you have left to nothing.

 
Lol, Nick is so blatant...
I love it.

Smoochies.

No sense in beating around the bush.

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subincali - you are making assumptions about me based on what you have found to be true about other competitors... I do not know you... I have only read the bs you put people thru on the internet. Why you have targeted me, I have no idea... you would think that you would be smart enough to realize that I am among friends here, and that anything you say about me reflects badly upon yourself. Furthermore, you are getting further and further from the point of this topic... nobody is trying to compare a 20.1 to a matts, or a memphis. Had you personally asked me what I've found about the 20.1 vs any other amp I have tested I would have given you factual results... good or bad about the 20.1. The fact is that the 20.1's have only been available for a short time now, and there havnt been enough people to use them yet for the general public to get a feel for what kind of value they are getting for their money. The fact also remains that the 20.1's are purpose built amplifiers... just because you dont understand the rating provided doesnt give you the right to place it ahead or behind any other amp out there, especially since you've never used one yourself. Lets use your philosophy and compare your beloved powerbass 3000... where does it stand compared to a T3000? They're both rated at 3000 watts... so why is it that a strapped pair of powerbasses still cant hang with a single T3? If you have been in the game for 7 yrs as you claim, you should know that the rating assigned to an amplifier arent always the best indicator of what kind of power you can expect under normal everyday circumstances. Most of the guys on this forum seem to understand this better than you do, hence the reason for this thread. The easiest way to compare one amp to another is to put them head to head, and obviously anybody that has used a 20.1 aint worried about it's capabilities. So... until you get your hands on a 20.1 and do a nice scientific comparison between it and anything else, please stop second guessing it's capabilities... it's doing nothing but reducing what little bit of credibility you have left to nothing.
That's exactly why I left this post alone last night, I wouldn't have been able to put it into words so well.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsupwink.gif.129404938effda6ad9cca39e7f4b58a3.gif

And as I and NG have both said. If I find out that anyone, ANYONE AT ALL, even SAW my amp except Flakko and the lovely people at USamps, I will be forever pissed.

I'm putting alot of trust in Flakko to take care of my baby, I think he understands that.

 
No sense in beating around the bush.
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Can you beat the bush off?

Please?

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so your telling me the t3000 is stronger then a soundstream?

oh wow... this keeps getting better and better. That sure looks like that is exactly what I was saying lol. I was trying to prove a point in regards to ratings, and you looked right past that to argue another useless point. Good job... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 
see the lies are coming out. so your telling me a 2 powerbass 3000ds wont hang with a a t3000??
okay here comes my test (world champion team xs spl jeffrey, team xs spl deron,team xs spl roger where their when i did this test and they helped out their amps)

4 powerbass 3000ds of one battery did a 150.9

2 soundstream 6500 xxx did of one battery same subs box etc. a 150.5

so your telling me the t3000 is stronger then a soundstream?
Once again you are proving yourself to be ABSOLUTELY worthless, this is EXACTLY why you won't see my 20.1.

 
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