subincali - you are making assumptions about me based on what you have found to be true about other competitors... I do not know you... I have only read the bs you put people thru on the internet. Why you have targeted me, I have no idea... you would think that you would be smart enough to realize that I am among friends here, and that anything you say about me reflects badly upon yourself. Furthermore, you are getting further and further from the point of this topic... nobody is trying to compare a 20.1 to a matts, or a memphis. Had you personally asked me what I've found about the 20.1 vs any other amp I have tested I would have given you factual results... good or bad about the 20.1. The fact is that the 20.1's have only been available for a short time now, and there havnt been enough people to use them yet for the general public to get a feel for what kind of value they are getting for their money. The fact also remains that the 20.1's are purpose built amplifiers... just because you dont understand the rating provided doesnt give you the right to place it ahead or behind any other amp out there, especially since you've never used one yourself. Lets use your philosophy and compare your beloved powerbass 3000... where does it stand compared to a T3000? They're both rated at 3000 watts... so why is it that a strapped pair of powerbasses still cant hang with a single T3? If you have been in the game for 7 yrs as you claim, you should know that the rating assigned to an amplifier arent always the best indicator of what kind of power you can expect under normal everyday circumstances. Most of the guys on this forum seem to understand this better than you do, hence the reason for this thread. The easiest way to compare one amp to another is to put them head to head, and obviously anybody that has used a 20.1 aint worried about it's capabilities. So... until you get your hands on a 20.1 and do a nice scientific comparison between it and anything else, please stop second guessing it's capabilities... it's doing nothing but reducing what little bit of credibility you have left to nothing.