Roman G
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I realize that most of this stuff is crap, but it still should sound halfway decent at least to me. I have just about had it with screwing around with this thing. Back when I was younger I would just throw some subs and an amp in the car, and I would be good to go. Now that I am trying to do it right, it's not working out for me.
I tried to do the install right. I ripped the interior out of my 92 fullsize Bronco and ran all the wires nice and neat. I have 4ga running to the back with a distribution block running 8ga to the amps. I am fused at the battery as well as 2 fuses at the dist. block. I have checked voltage at the amps, I always have 13.8+volts. I have separate 4ga ground running to seat belt posts.
I really just need some help with why the sub is sounding like crap. It sounds really muffled, and like someone is taking a crap. The sub is in a sealed enclosure with approximately .80cf, I took the sub out and resealed it to make sure it was good and sealed. I have tried all 3 of the amps and they all sound just the same, no difference.
I was reading on here lastnight about hooking the sub to the home stereo to make sure it was working right, so I did that this morning and it sounded okay, it was prolly being pushed with less than 50 watts as well.
Really looking for some help here guys.
You guys have already helped me get my components going good, and they sound great, running off the Premier-GM6150F bridged.
The bottom pic is how I have the sub wired.
Anyway here is what I got.
HU:
Pioneer DEH-P350
General
* MOSFET 50W x 4
* XM Satellite Radio Ready
o 8-character display for XM Radio text (no scroll) with GEX-P900XM or GEX-FM903XM
o 16-character display for XM Radio text (auto-scroll) GEX-P910XM or GEX-FM913XM
o XM Mode (Channel/Category) key
* Card Remote
* Rotary Volume Control (Pop-Up)
* EEQ with EQ-EX Performance Chip
o 3-Band Parametric Equalizer (Adjustable Level, Frequency and Q Factor)
o Easy EQ (EEQ) with EQ-EX switches 10 Factory, 2 User EQ Presets
o Source Custom EQ Memory (Independent Custom Memory for each source)
o Selectable Loudness Control (Low/Mid/High/Off)
* SFEQ (Sound Focus EQ)
o Additional Independent Bass / Treble Control for Front / Rear
* Two-Way Crossover
o Front/Rear HPF (50/80/125Hz, -12dB/oct)
o Selectable LPF (Low Pass Filter) (50/80/125Hz, -18dB/oct)
o Sub-Out Level (-12dB to +12dB) and Phase Control
o Independent Subwoofer Outputs
* IP-Bus System Control
o XM Satellite Radio
o MCD Control
o TV Tuner Control
o Auxiliary Input (CD-RB10 or CD-RB20 required)
o 2 External Unit Control
* S.L.A. (Source Level Adjustment)
* Selectable Fader Control
* RCA Preouts (x3 pair, Front, Rear & Sub or Non-Fading) (2V)
* Large Multi-Color Liquid Crystal Display with LED backlight
o Level Meter (4-mode: Bottom-up, Center-out, All on, All off)
* Cellular Mute input wire
* Clock
Components:
Kicker RS65.2
Sub:
JBL-GT1241D
Size 12 -inch
Impedance 4 ohms
Cone Material Poly
Surround Material Butyl rubber
Ideal Sealed Box Volume (cubic feet) 1.25
Ideal Ported Box Volume (cubic feet) 2
Port diameter (inches) 4
Port length (inches) 8
Free-Air No
Dual Voice Coil Yes
Sensitivity 93 dB at 1 volt
Frequency Response 18 - 500 Hz
RMS Power Range (Watts) 18-300
Peak Power Handling (Watts) 1200
Top Mount Depth (inches) 5 15/16
Bottom Mount Depth (inches) 6 7/16
Cutout Diameter or Length (inches) 11 1/8
Vas (liters) 146.33
Fs (Hz) 22
Qts 0.44
Amps:
Eclipse-EA3422
Features
* 123W × 4 Channel Max. Power Output at 2 Stereo
* 70W × 4 Channel 0.1% THD at 2 Stereo @13.8V (RMS Continuous Power)
* 50W × 4 Channel 0.1% THD at 4 Stereo @13.8V (RMS Continuous Power)
* ChannelFlex Crossover
* Adjustable High-Pass Frequency (50–200Hz, L/R Independent)
* Low-Pass Frequency (90Hz)
* Adjustable Bass-Boost Level (45Hz, 0–9dB, F/R Separate)
Premier-GM6150F
Specifications
Peak Music Power 600 Watts
Number of Channels 4
Load Impedance Capability 2~8 Ohm (Stereo), 4~8 Ohm (Bridged)
Continuous Power (4 ohm) 60W x 4
Continuous Power (2 ohm) 75W x 4
Continuous Power Bridged (4 ohm) 150W x 2
Frequency Response 10Hz ~ 50kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion 0.01%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 95dB
Bridgeable Yes
Channel # Capability 2/3/4
RCA Inputs Gold, 4 Channel
RCA Outputs (Pass Thru) Yes
Speaker Level Input 4 Channel
Input Level Control Hi-Volt (200mV ~ 6.5v)
Built-in Crossover LPF/HPF (Front/Rear Independent)
Crossover Frequency Range 40 ~ 120Hz, -12dB/Oct.
Pioneer-GM3300T
Specifications
Peak Music Power 300 Watts
Number of Channels 2
Load Impedance Capability 2~8 Ohm (Stereo)
4~8 Ohm (Bridged)
Continuous Power (4 ohm) 60W x 2
Continuous Power (2 ohm) 75W x 2
Continuous Power (1 ohm)
Continuous Power Bridged (4 ohm) 150W x 1
Frequency Response 10Hz ~ 50 kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion 0.008%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio >100dB
Bridgeable Yes
Channel # Capability 2/1
RCA Inputs 2 Channel
Speaker Level Input 2 Channel
Input Level Control Hi-Volt (400mV ~ 6.5v)
Built-in Crossover Selectable LPF
Crossover Frequency Range 80Hz, -12dB/Oct.
Output Power (4 Ohm,
Output Power (4 Ohm Bridged,
Output Power (2 Ohm,
Signal to Noise (1 Watt into 4 Ohms) 80 dBA
Dynamic Power (4 Ohm) 60 Watts
I tried to do the install right. I ripped the interior out of my 92 fullsize Bronco and ran all the wires nice and neat. I have 4ga running to the back with a distribution block running 8ga to the amps. I am fused at the battery as well as 2 fuses at the dist. block. I have checked voltage at the amps, I always have 13.8+volts. I have separate 4ga ground running to seat belt posts.
I really just need some help with why the sub is sounding like crap. It sounds really muffled, and like someone is taking a crap. The sub is in a sealed enclosure with approximately .80cf, I took the sub out and resealed it to make sure it was good and sealed. I have tried all 3 of the amps and they all sound just the same, no difference.
I was reading on here lastnight about hooking the sub to the home stereo to make sure it was working right, so I did that this morning and it sounded okay, it was prolly being pushed with less than 50 watts as well.
Really looking for some help here guys.
You guys have already helped me get my components going good, and they sound great, running off the Premier-GM6150F bridged.
The bottom pic is how I have the sub wired.
Anyway here is what I got.
HU:
Pioneer DEH-P350
General
* MOSFET 50W x 4
* XM Satellite Radio Ready
o 8-character display for XM Radio text (no scroll) with GEX-P900XM or GEX-FM903XM
o 16-character display for XM Radio text (auto-scroll) GEX-P910XM or GEX-FM913XM
o XM Mode (Channel/Category) key
* Card Remote
* Rotary Volume Control (Pop-Up)
* EEQ with EQ-EX Performance Chip
o 3-Band Parametric Equalizer (Adjustable Level, Frequency and Q Factor)
o Easy EQ (EEQ) with EQ-EX switches 10 Factory, 2 User EQ Presets
o Source Custom EQ Memory (Independent Custom Memory for each source)
o Selectable Loudness Control (Low/Mid/High/Off)
* SFEQ (Sound Focus EQ)
o Additional Independent Bass / Treble Control for Front / Rear
* Two-Way Crossover
o Front/Rear HPF (50/80/125Hz, -12dB/oct)
o Selectable LPF (Low Pass Filter) (50/80/125Hz, -18dB/oct)
o Sub-Out Level (-12dB to +12dB) and Phase Control
o Independent Subwoofer Outputs
* IP-Bus System Control
o XM Satellite Radio
o MCD Control
o TV Tuner Control
o Auxiliary Input (CD-RB10 or CD-RB20 required)
o 2 External Unit Control
* S.L.A. (Source Level Adjustment)
* Selectable Fader Control
* RCA Preouts (x3 pair, Front, Rear & Sub or Non-Fading) (2V)
* Large Multi-Color Liquid Crystal Display with LED backlight
o Level Meter (4-mode: Bottom-up, Center-out, All on, All off)
* Cellular Mute input wire
* Clock
Components:
Kicker RS65.2
Sub:
JBL-GT1241D
Size 12 -inch
Impedance 4 ohms
Cone Material Poly
Surround Material Butyl rubber
Ideal Sealed Box Volume (cubic feet) 1.25
Ideal Ported Box Volume (cubic feet) 2
Port diameter (inches) 4
Port length (inches) 8
Free-Air No
Dual Voice Coil Yes
Sensitivity 93 dB at 1 volt
Frequency Response 18 - 500 Hz
RMS Power Range (Watts) 18-300
Peak Power Handling (Watts) 1200
Top Mount Depth (inches) 5 15/16
Bottom Mount Depth (inches) 6 7/16
Cutout Diameter or Length (inches) 11 1/8
Vas (liters) 146.33
Fs (Hz) 22
Qts 0.44
Amps:
Eclipse-EA3422
Features
* 123W × 4 Channel Max. Power Output at 2 Stereo
* 70W × 4 Channel 0.1% THD at 2 Stereo @13.8V (RMS Continuous Power)
* 50W × 4 Channel 0.1% THD at 4 Stereo @13.8V (RMS Continuous Power)
* ChannelFlex Crossover
* Adjustable High-Pass Frequency (50–200Hz, L/R Independent)
* Low-Pass Frequency (90Hz)
* Adjustable Bass-Boost Level (45Hz, 0–9dB, F/R Separate)
Premier-GM6150F
Specifications
Peak Music Power 600 Watts
Number of Channels 4
Load Impedance Capability 2~8 Ohm (Stereo), 4~8 Ohm (Bridged)
Continuous Power (4 ohm) 60W x 4
Continuous Power (2 ohm) 75W x 4
Continuous Power Bridged (4 ohm) 150W x 2
Frequency Response 10Hz ~ 50kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion 0.01%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 95dB
Bridgeable Yes
Channel # Capability 2/3/4
RCA Inputs Gold, 4 Channel
RCA Outputs (Pass Thru) Yes
Speaker Level Input 4 Channel
Input Level Control Hi-Volt (200mV ~ 6.5v)
Built-in Crossover LPF/HPF (Front/Rear Independent)
Crossover Frequency Range 40 ~ 120Hz, -12dB/Oct.
Pioneer-GM3300T
Specifications
Peak Music Power 300 Watts
Number of Channels 2
Load Impedance Capability 2~8 Ohm (Stereo)
4~8 Ohm (Bridged)
Continuous Power (4 ohm) 60W x 2
Continuous Power (2 ohm) 75W x 2
Continuous Power (1 ohm)
Continuous Power Bridged (4 ohm) 150W x 1
Frequency Response 10Hz ~ 50 kHz
Total Harmonic Distortion 0.008%
Signal-to-Noise Ratio >100dB
Bridgeable Yes
Channel # Capability 2/1
RCA Inputs 2 Channel
Speaker Level Input 2 Channel
Input Level Control Hi-Volt (400mV ~ 6.5v)
Built-in Crossover Selectable LPF
Crossover Frequency Range 80Hz, -12dB/Oct.
Output Power (4 Ohm,
Output Power (4 Ohm Bridged,
Output Power (2 Ohm,
Signal to Noise (1 Watt into 4 Ohms) 80 dBA
Dynamic Power (4 Ohm) 60 Watts
