How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[KB777 10+ year member]

So my question is what happens to a child that dies at birth where does the child go? They never excepted Jesus as their lord so does that mean they go to hell or is there some exception to it?

If you have not had the opportunity to accept Jesus or have never known anyting about him then you will not go to hell (DIE)

According to the Bible, they would go to hell because of Original Sin.

That is false

 

[Chin_Chilla 10+ year member]

That show what u know or should i say don't know dude. Thoughs who have not been given the chance to decide or have never heard do not go to hell. They knew no better.

Where in the bible does it say that these people are somehow exempt for being 'non beleivers' ...

 

[KB777 10+ year member]

The sins of Adam and Eve linger on in their offspring, which is why baptism is practiced. So essentially, even if you never commit a sin in your life, if you aren't baptized and don't ask forgiveness for the sins of your ancestors, you're still screwed

That is taught by a selct few churchs yes but it is a misconcception.

You do not have to be baptized to be saved.

Jesus said thoughs who believe in me will be saved not thoughs who believe in me and get baptized and go to church and so on and so on will be saved

 

[KB777 10+ year member]

I don't have a problem with religion, what I do have a problem with is people that try to force feed there shitt (Like the *** clown who started this page) on to other people and feel that they are better than everyone even know they do not follow Christs teachings but still call them themselves christians.

It doent seam to me that he is trying to force anything on anyone he is just puting it out there for you to accept or not

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

So if you want facts it is true and there is a whole lot of evedence out there to prove it. You just have to look instead of critisize.

Exactly! YOU need to look. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=696492648668420724

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

The bible is backed by tons and tons of historical and arceological evedence. Cecular Historians from the days of Jesus even documented Jesus, his miricules, and his death. They even verifiy what the Bible says about the sky turning black and the huge earthquake after he was killed. And the fact that 3 days after he died his body disapered from the tomb.
So if you want facts it is true and there is a whole lot of evedence out there to prove it. You just have to look instead of critisize (Sam Harris).

I know if I didn't believe and Some one told me that there was more than Just the Bible talkin about this stuff i would wanna find out for sure that i wasnt makein a huge mistake by just shrugin off christianity.

(and yes i know im a bad speller)

If there really was reliable genuine evidence I wouldn't have to look for it; I would have people like the thread starter telling me about it everywhere I go. If there was evidence people wouldn't talk about 'faith.' Faith is, almost by definition, belief in the absence of evidence. Where we have evidence, we have no need for faith.

The bible is backed by tons and tons of historical and arceological evedence. Cecular Historians from the days of Jesus even documented Jesus, his miricules, and his death. They even verifiy what the Bible says about the sky turning black and the huge earthquake after he was killed. And the fact that 3 days after he died his body disapered from the tomb.

So please, supply me with this evidence from credible sources.

(and yes i know im a bad speller)

Download the new Firefox, it has a spellchecker when you type in the browser

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

A good one that dispels biblical bullshit... http://www.thegodmovie.com

 

[KB777 10+ year member]

i seperate god from religion
religion = bullshit

religion is not god

i believe in god, i just simply put religion to the side F that shit

I agree Religion causes death and destruction

A relationship with God is about living right and helping and loving others. That is the true esence of christianity even though it has been twisted and changed to fit peoples intrests.

 

[KB777 10+ year member]

If there really was reliable genuine evidence I wouldn't have to look for it; I would have people like the thread starter telling me about it everywhere I go. If there was evidence people wouldn't talk about 'faith.' Faith is, almost by definition, belief in the absence of evidence. Where we have evidence, we have no need for faith.


So please, supply me with this evidence from credible sources.

I could not tell you where i have found have the stuff i have read or seen . It has come from years of personal investigation and search. If you truly want to believe then search for your self. Sift through the bull spit and find the truth. If your willing to do so

 

[KB777 10+ year member]

Is there something wrong with simply not taking a position? Is there something wrong with just being honest with yourself and with others about what you really know about this world?


Macroevolution has been supported by:

- fossil records / transitional forms in the fossil records

- chronological nature of the fossil records / change in the distribution and frequency of types of organisms through geological time

- comparative embryology shows similar developmental stages for closely related organisms (e.g., all vertebrates)

- vestigial structures; have a function in other organisms/ancestors by the function is no longer necessary, yet the structure stays

- homologous structures - same bone structure found in the forearm of many vertebrates (just vary in size relationships of the bones)

- DNA of more closely related organisms are much more similar than less closely related organisms (from sibs, out to distance relatives out to members of a species, members of the genus, etc....)

- biogeography: organisms that are found in the same area are more similar to each other than to other individuals from distant places (all the marsupials on Australia!)

Direct evidence of evolution:

- bacterial resistance -- bacterial populations change in face of selection by antibiotics

- pests -- lots of evidence for pesitcides selecting for resistant individuals within a population and the pesticide becomes less and less affected over generations (the generation of the pests, not us).

- classic example on Darwin's finches showing microevolution of bill size change in response to drought (and back again) - across generations, not individuals (bill size is heritable)

- evo-devo: this is an area in science that is showing DRAMATICALLY that some changes during development can lead to dramatically different outcomes. For example, a small difference in the gene controlling foot development in birds: results in birds with webbed feet or birds with no web.

If you are unfamiliar with all of this then maybe you should start reading. Or at least not take opinions on things you know nothing about.

Of corse there is evolution within species. Diferent diets, climates, weather, and other things play big parts in developments of species. Like Felines for example, lions and tigers are diferent because of there environments (thats why they live in deferent parts of the world) but there species is feline. No cat ever turned into a dog.

There is no evedence of one species evolving into another.

 

[KB777 10+ year member]

Exactly! YOU need to look. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=696492648668420724

I did now you look. Check out the links below.

Here Is Some Archaeological And Historical Proof That Backs The Factuality Of The Bible And The Existance Of Jesus

Proof From Archaeology

(Excavation of King Solomon's Gate) http://www.kingsolomonsgate.com/

(Parting of the red sea proven) http://www.eons.com/blogs/entry/674811-Science-Proves-Bible-Accuracy

(Dead Sea Scrolls) http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=387754

(Proof From History) http://www.vcmagazine.org/article.aspx?volume=05&issue=06&article=acts1

(Proof from archaeology) http://www.ucg.org/booklets/BT/existence.htm

(Old Testament figure named on 2600-year-old tablet) http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22060312-2,00.html

(Proof of Prophecy & Historians) http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/b_proof.shtml

(Two more bullae found) http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-philosophy/586204-two-more-bullae-found-further-proof.html

(Museum’s tablet lends new weight to Biblical truth) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2056362.ece

(more proof) http://www.allabouttruth.org/bible-is-true-faq.htm

(Proof) http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/ACCC/k/825/

(Sodom and Gomorrah: Has Archeology Found Proof of the Bible Tale?) http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/466227/sodom_and_gomorrah_has_archeology_found.html

(Proof from archaeology) http://www.prevailmagazine.org/how-archaeology-proves-the-bible/

(Ten Archaeological Discoveries Relating to the Biblical World) http://biblicalstudies.info/top10/schoville.htm

(More Archaeological Proof) http://biblicalstudies.info/top10/schoville.htm

(Fallen Empires) http://www.bible-history.com/biblehistoryonline_fallenempires.php

(Two Recent Archaeological Discoveries Support Biblical History) http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/index.php?option=com_custom_content&task=view&id=4840

(Recent Archaeological Discoveries at Hazor) http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/Hazor_Ebeling.shtml

(Archaeological Discoveries Confirm the Bible) http://www.tommyswindow.com/pps_articles/english/Archeaological_Discoveries_Confirm_Bible.htm

(THE BIBLE'S ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE) http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/bib-qur/bibarch.htm

(Ten Important Archaeological Discoveries in 2008 Related to the Bible) http://www.claudemariottini.com/blog/2008/12/ten-important-archaeological.html

Proof Of Jesus

(historical proof of Jesus) http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-and-scientific-proof-of-jesus-faq.htm

(Surprising Archaeological Find: Proof of Jesus' Existence?) http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn44/existence.htm

(historical proof that Jesus existed) http://www.sowhataboutjesus.com/existed.php

(historical proof that Jesus existed) http://www.creatingfutures.net/birth.html

(Brief Life Summary Of Jesus) http://www.jesuscentral.com/ji/historical-jesus/christ.php?source=Google&gclid=CKHr8sHy5JkCFQZqswodLS-ZRg

And there is alot more where that came from. But if you want more ya gotta do your own diggin. I'm tired. So check these links out and if the Spirit moves you read and recite the prayer at the begining of this thread. God Bless.

 

[Chin_Chilla 10+ year member]

Accoring to the Bible, you would go to hell because of Original Sin.

That is false

KBB, how is that false? According to Psalm 51.5, it says we are born sinners, from the moment our mothers conceived us... So if we are born sinners, and we never accept Jesus Christ because 'we didnt get the opportunity to accept Him ', the Bible clearly states we would go to hell.

In 1 John 1:8,8 it says If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

You sir, contradict your self and have no idea what you are talking about //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[lilmaniac2 5,000+ posts]

The 10 commandments is on the history channel //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

The 10 commandments is on the history channel //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Not the movie. A special about them. I watched it for about 10 seconds

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

i remember that shit remake they did on nbc about 2 - 3 yrs ago. crap