How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[newusername 10+ year member]

Why evolution is wrong part 2. Take the time to watch the video before you comment. Creationism explained:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?sou ... en&tab=wv#

Perhaps you are not aware that Kent Hovind has no evidence for almost anything he claims; his claims are rejected by the scientific community and, indeed, many creationists. I recall a criticism offered by the creationist group called Answers in Genesis:

[Hovind] persistently use discredited or false arguments.

Meanwhile, he is in direct opposition of Jesus Christ by making substantial amounts of cash off of confused followers, then by evading taxes and committing a series of felonies that have landed him in federal prison on a 10 year sentence.

So if this is your proof, I thank you for making my point.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

You obviously didn't watch the video, it's literally 2 hours of evidence one thing after another.

 

[robinsonjerry 10+ year member]

all of that is BS

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

I saw it two years ago. It was as false then as it is now. I do not believe that there is a global scientific consipracy and that the only truth holder is Kent Hovind.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

There is NO WAY that you can deny all of that evidence, even if you don't like it. I guarentee you that if you did watch it, you are confusing it with another one. It's undeniable.

 

[thorshammer1 10+ year member]

Sure fire way to go to Heaven

Get buried in a Cemetary Called Heaven!

WodenSworn and Valhalla Bound:viking2:

 

[TheHammer12 10+ year member]

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I believe in the bible because it is the only thing that makes sense to me. Atheism makes no sense because they are saying that they know that in all of everything there is no one being who can know everything, so they are saying that they know everything, which they don't believe is possible. Also, I don't believe in evolution because there has been no evidence for a slow, gradually transforming world. Unfortunately, TC went about trying to convert people in the wrong way because to be a believer involves much more than a prayer, it involves belief!

 

[Farmacist 10+ year member]

do you know whats even more sad? this stupid *** OP comes on to a AUDIO forum and tries to start preaching and crap when the only posts he's ever made is IN THIS THREAD!! I vote ban

btw, Frodo had all of his rings penetrated by Sam in those movies, and he LOOOVED it.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

For starters, I highly doubt any atheist has ever said they know everything. Most gnostic atheists are operating on the substantial evidence that contradicts what is claimed of god. Many atheists are like I am: agnostic. They acknowledge that we do not currently know the answer, but there probably is not a god.

As far as evolution is concerned, there is a great deal of evidence in support of it. There is no serious debate about this in the scientific community due to the lack of evidence against it. The fossil record of the horse is a good example of the way in which organisms evolve. If God is so perfect, why do whales have vistigial leg bones and useless pelvis'? We've seen evolution in extremely short periods with fruit flies; why is it impossible when indicated elsewhere in the fossil record? I love how people like Hovind have no idea how to compare strata. Whether you believe the theory of evolution is perfect or not is irrelevant because it is still far more probable than your idea of god. If you disbelieve evolution, it is because you do not want to accept an astounding amount of scientific fact.

 

[TheHammer12 10+ year member]

do you know whats even more sad? this stupid *** OP comes on to a AUDIO forum and tries to start preaching and crap when the only posts he's ever made is IN THIS THREAD!! I vote ban
btw, Frodo had all of his rings penetrated by Sam in those movies, and he LOOOVED it.

Lol

I see your point, but all he's really trying to do is save lives, and although this ain't the best way or place to do it, he took a big step by trying.

 

[TheHammer12 10+ year member]

The horse is irrelevent because it's different stages were found out of order in the strata. Fruit flys never changed into another species, they merely adapted to their conditions, while still staying inside their own species, And so what if the unused bones are in the whale?

Also, what evidence is there that there isn't a God.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

What are you talking about?

The Hyracotherium was found in Eocene rock that was ~50 million years old.

The Mesohippus was found in Eocene rock that was ~35 million years old.

The Merychippus was found in Miocene rock that was ~15 million years old.

The Pilohippus was found in Miocene rock that was ~8 million years old.

The Equus has been found in Pleistocene rock as far back as ~1 million years ago.

None of that is "out of order" in the strata.

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I believe in the bible because it is the only thing that makes sense to me. Atheism makes no sense because they are saying that they know that in all of everything there is no one being who can know everything, so they are saying that they know everything, which they don't believe is possible.

Is there something wrong with simply not taking a position? Is there something wrong with just being honest with yourself and with others about what you really know about this world?

Also, I don't believe in evolution because there has been no evidence for a slow, gradually transforming world.

Macroevolution has been supported by:

- fossil records / transitional forms in the fossil records

- chronological nature of the fossil records / change in the distribution and frequency of types of organisms through geological time

- comparative embryology shows similar developmental stages for closely related organisms (e.g., all vertebrates)

- vestigial structures; have a function in other organisms/ancestors by the function is no longer necessary, yet the structure stays

- homologous structures - same bone structure found in the forearm of many vertebrates (just vary in size relationships of the bones)

- DNA of more closely related organisms are much more similar than less closely related organisms (from sibs, out to distance relatives out to members of a species, members of the genus, etc....)

- biogeography: organisms that are found in the same area are more similar to each other than to other individuals from distant places (all the marsupials on Australia!)

Direct evidence of evolution:

- bacterial resistance -- bacterial populations change in face of selection by antibiotics

- pests -- lots of evidence for pesitcides selecting for resistant individuals within a population and the pesticide becomes less and less affected over generations (the generation of the pests, not us).

- classic example on Darwin's finches showing microevolution of bill size change in response to drought (and back again) - across generations, not individuals (bill size is heritable)

- evo-devo: this is an area in science that is showing DRAMATICALLY that some changes during development can lead to dramatically different outcomes. For example, a small difference in the gene controlling foot development in birds: results in birds with webbed feet or birds with no web.

If you are unfamiliar with all of this then maybe you should start reading. Or at least not take opinions on things you know nothing about.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Another thing that baffles me:

Do you really not see our similarities to the primates? The more we learn about them socially and biologically, the more impressive the relation becomes. Yet somehow that is impossible, but a personal god is fact. I sometimes wonder: if we were made in god's image, were some primates made in our image? What if they were made in god's image towards the tail end of his creation...when he got a bit tired.....

 

[Farmacist 10+ year member]

LolI see your point, but all he's really trying to do is save lives, and although this ain't the best way or place to do it, he took a big step by trying.

i really don't have a problem with freedom of religion, and I accept that you guys have a different belief than mine, but what does piss off is when people preach and they don't accept the fact their view could be wrong.