how much can my 600wrms type-r really handle?

[sjv13 10+ year member]

As you can see in my sig, it sees 500wrms right now. It's rated to 600wrms. How much do you think it could really handle? Would it be worth the money to upgrade to a higher power amp, and which one would you recommend?

edit: It's a DVC 4ohm by the way

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[SplAffair 10+ year member]

600 rms....

 

[NFrazier 10+ year member]

Depends. If I'm building an enclosure for the Type-R I run a MRX-M100 up to roughly 8-900W. If it's a basic enclosure and not really to the specifications of the woofer, run 5-600. Type-R's prefer a ported enclosure, they produce a decent amount of bass and is still rather clean.

 

[psych0ticnemes1 5,000+ posts]

Unless you send it double the power (which I wouldn't recommend), you may not see much of an increase in output. I would add another one if your goal is to get louder.

 

[zako 10+ year member]

How low do you let your subwoofer play? One way to _estimate_ how much power a subwoofer will handle is to model excursion in WinISD. I care about SQ and SPL. Therefore, I consider a subwoofer power handling limit is where it runs out of its xmax excursion. The can be lower or higher than the manufacturer's RMS rating. Let's say you run the sub sealed. Load the box specs in WinISD, switch to excursion model and start adding the wattage in signal section until the graph exceeds xmax excursion at about 25Hz. For ported subwoofers, the highest excrusion will happen at or above the tuning frequency, if you dial in the subsonic filter setting.

I just did this for SWR-1243. WinISD recommends 1.9 cu ft sealed box for best qtc, which is kind of large from utilitarian point of view. 1.2cu ft box results in 0.779 qtc, which is very reasonable. Looking at excursion graph, with 600watts, cone excursion is only 16mm at 20Hz. With 1000watts, excursion is at 20mm at 30Hz, and 21mm at 20Hz. So this subwoofer has enough "excursion headroom" to handle 1000watts. However, this modeling tells us nothing about thermal limit of this subwoofer. I would run 600watts to this subwoofer as recommended by manufacturer.

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

Depends. If I'm building an enclosure for the Type-R I run a MRX-M100 up to roughly 8-900W. If it's a basic enclosure and not really to the specifications of the woofer, run 5-600. Type-R's prefer a ported enclosure, they produce a decent amount of bass and is still rather clean.

Ok, that's good to know. It's not a custom box. It's one that the car audio place picked out for me and it's from Audio Enhancers or something close to that.

EDIT: It is ported though

Unless you send it double the power (which I wouldn't recommend), you may not see much of an increase in output. I would add another one if your goal is to get louder.

This is also good to know. Thanks.

 

[SplAffair 10+ year member]

when hes referring to a proper enclosure hes talking about a custom built enclosure built to alpines specs

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

when hes referring to a proper enclosure hes talking about a custom built enclosure built to alpines specs

that's what I figured. I would hope that the place installing it for me picked out the right box haha. But like the other guy said, unless I send it like 2 times as much power I wont notice a difference and I dont want to do that.

 

[TreyE 10+ year member]

I threw 3200 at 4 of mine and they wanted moooorreeee, box was tuned for daily at 34hz ish. Beast for the price.

 

[NFrazier 10+ year member]

that's what I figured. I would hope that the place installing it for me picked out the right box haha. But like the other guy said, unless I send it like 2 times as much power I wont notice a difference and I dont want to do that.

VERY unlikely. Most prebuilt ported boxes are tuned higher than the Type-R would like (typically in the 50-60hz range depending)

 

[Random 10+ year member]

Yeah I'd agree maybe 800 at most in the right enclosure. I think 1,000 wouldn't be such a great idea. However the new Type R came out a few months ago with a 1,000 RMS rating, 500 for each voice coil.

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

VERY unlikely. Most prebuilt ported boxes are tuned higher than the Type-R would like (typically in the 50-60hz range depending)

Actually, I called the place that installed my sub and stuff and they said that they custom build their boxes to Alpine's specs. I thought it was a premade one because they had a few of them there, but they just know they will be selling type-r's enough, so they keep a few on hand.

 

[Serpent710 10+ year member]

I ran a AQ2200 @ 1 ohm to 2 15s daily with no probs.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

You can easily kill Type R with anything over 600W if you don't know what you're doing. As has been pointed out you'll want to DOUBLE power to even notice the difference. If you're chasing numbers on a meter you should start by throwing away the Type R, if you're trying to get louder playing music you should get a second sub or a larger sub.

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

If these are the specs that the vented box was made to, what would that mean it's tuned to? Im just curious and I dont know the formula or what to insert.

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