how much can my 600wrms type-r really handle?

[NFrazier 10+ year member]

F3 is the -3db cutoff point and Fb is going to be the resonant frequency of the enclosure (typically referred to as what the box is tuned to).

 

[sjv13 10+ year member]

F3 is the -3db cutoff point and Fb is going to be the resonant frequency of the enclosure (typically referred to as what the box is tuned to).

Oh, okay cool. Thanks. Could you explain just simply what the -3db cutoff point means?

 

[NFrazier 10+ year member]

It is, in simple terms, the point in where the frequency response begins to roll off/become attenuated.

 

[rebelfromva 10+ year member]

I would do much over 700 personally on this model type r.

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Depends. If I'm building an enclosure for the Type-R I run a MRX-M100 up to roughly 8-900W. If it's a basic enclosure and not really to the specifications of the woofer, run 5-600. Type-R's prefer a ported enclosure, they produce a decent amount of bass and is still rather clean.

Enclosures can affect power handling but not on that large of a scale. Unless it is built wrong with far to much port area and/or net volume. To suggest you build "magic enclosures" that increase power handling over rated is simply not true.

However, when you offer clean unclipped power to a driver it is common with today's products to be able to apply more then rated rms safely. However, it is not recommended.

VERY unlikely. Most prebuilt ported boxes are tuned higher than the Type-R would like (typically in the 50-60hz range depending)

Most prefabs are tuned into the 40hz range. However, the tuning of the enclosure is relative to the application and goal. This means you do not have to be tuned low to get low or vise verse. Tuning of an enclosure is one of the largest misconceptions out there.

Actually, I called the place that installed my sub and stuff and they said that they custom build their boxes to Alpine's specs. I thought it was a premade one because they had a few of them there, but they just know they will be selling type-r's enough, so they keep a few on hand.

Odds are they are claiming prefab to be "custom". It is not likely at all that those enclosure are custom built waiting on buyers. If they build custom enclosures they would be building enclosures around the application, product, and goals for each client...not random enclosures that "should work".

 

[NFrazier 10+ year member]

Enclosures can affect power handling but not on that large of a scale. Unless it is built wrong with far to much port area and/or net volume. To suggest you build "magic enclosures" that increase power handling over rated is simply not true.

Never said that.....so please don't reference that I did. An enclosure doesn't have a large effect on the power handling, I am referencing enclosures that arn't even close to the specifications of the woofer. Woofers range in what their requirements are for sealed or ported enclosures, what's good for one, might not necessarily be good for another. That's not saying it won't play and have a decent amount of output, but not the most out of the subwoofer. I am just saying that the enclosures I build for the woofers I sell are specifically for the woofers parameters, the specific vehicle, and the desired response so I know the woofer will be "happy" in that enclosure.

Odds are they are claiming prefab to be "custom". It is not likely at all that those enclosure are custom built waiting on buyers. If they build custom enclosures they would be building enclosures around the application, product, and goals for each client...not random enclosures that "should work".

Agreed

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

I was just reading what you posted and it read like you were claiming your enclosure would net a different result then any other enclosure.

Unless the enclosure is far to large the actual power you could apply to the driver will be very very close with minimal difference other then the response curve of course. I just don't want it to get around again (it was huge for a while) that the enclosure will allow the driver to handle 300+ over another...That is simply not the case unless you are reaching mechanical limits early in the power range.

Now if you talking high efficiency which is geared normally on low power compared to a typical bass reflex design...then I can see a power difference.