How do the Parts-Express speakers compare to other Car audio speakers?

[gunz4me2 10+ year member]

This is exactly what I wanted to know. I am glad you all responded and cleared my mind for me. Thanks to those who posted very much. I am starting to learn more and wanting to do more "diy" kind of stuff and mix and match.
I have to admit I am very intrigued by what you said Gunz, the fact you are running a full range and not a tweeter! Is the response equal to a good tweeter set? Or is it a little less at higher freq? To be honest I dont want to rip the doors apart and run 3-way active I just want to stick to two way. This sounds like a great idea though.

The response is just as good as a tweeter and I really like it because all my vocals are covered by ONE driver versus being split between a 6.5" driver and a tweeter. In fact, after going with the full range driver, I wondered why in the hell I ever obsessed over tweeters to begin with.

If you have the ability to mount on-axis via dash pods or some other creative method, I highly recommend you look into the Tang Band W3-1364SA 3" Bamboo Cone Driver or the Fountek FR88EX.

 

[way2sl0 10+ year member]

Those two look like some solid drivers. I see there is some anomalies in the curve, a little more so 5K+ than a tweet, but it is still fairly flat. Can always be EQ'd out. Only problem is right now I have my tweets on axis (in the sail panels) but I don't see how I could mount a 3" driver on axis...that may be difficult...

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Just remember, they'll still need airspace for the bottom end extension.

 

[way2sl0 10+ year member]

Yeah I would be running them for all intents and purposes free air...

Check the flat response of this driver out Silver Flute W17RC38-04 ohm 6-1/2" Wool Cone from Madisound

Id want to cut that around 3 khz....what do average tweets like to start at? around 2.5-3.5 right?

The tweeter idea is still ideal for me since I can then remain on-axis without needing to make some wicked complicated custom enclosure for a full range driver that is angled exactly to me on both doors.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

in a moving car it's pretty hard to hear much above 12k anyway. Go download some test tones and play with it if you dont' beleive me. This is especially true if you have any hearing damage at all, most people do, you just don't notice. Also, 12k is will pick up the fundamentals of most instruments., so yeah, a fullrange driver playing that high is a pretty good idea that I've seen used in cars successfully more than once. I cross my horns over at 16k 24db/octave to avoid cone breakup since the frequencies really aren't audible anyway.

 

[AudioDave]

in a moving car it's pretty hard to hear much above 12k anyway. Go download some test tones and play with it if you dont' beleive me. This is especially true if you have any hearing damage at all, most people do, you just don't notice. Also, 12k is will pick up the fundamentals of most instruments., so yeah, a fullrange driver playing that high is a pretty good idea that I've seen used in cars successfully more than once. I cross my horns over at 16k 24db/octave to avoid cone breakup since the frequencies really aren't audible anyway.

Thats actually true even in home.

12K however is too high. 6K in a fr driver is even high. 8-9 on a tweet is up there but you wont hear above 14.6k unless your a dog. And if your crossing your tweets at 16K, your missing a huge amount of sound you can hear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range#Humans

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

lol my horns are bandpassed 1.2k at 24 one one end, 16k at 24 on the other.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Thats actually true even in home.
12K however is too high. 6K in a fr driver is even high. 8-9 on a tweet is up there but you wont hear above 14.6k unless your a dog. And if your crossing your tweets at 16K, your missing a huge amount of sound you can hear.

Hearing range - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

did you pull that 14.6khz figure from your ***?

 

[AudioDave]

No your moms. read the link noob.

"Specifically in humans, we have a maximum aural range of 12 Hz under ideal laboratory conditions[1] to 20,000 Hz in some individuals, but the range shrinks during our lifetime, usually beginning at around the age of 8 with the higher frequencies fading.

The more you post the stupider you look so do yourself a favor and shut up cuz noone gives a shit what you think either.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

It's the jr high guy again!

 

[AudioDave]

only when you come on here trying to act like high school

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

No your moms. read the link noob.
"Specifically in humans, we have a maximum aural range of 12 Hz under ideal laboratory conditions[1] to 20,000 Hz in some individuals, but the range shrinks during our lifetime, usually beginning at around the age of 8 with the higher frequencies fading.

The more you post the stupider you look so do yourself a favor and shut up cuz noone gives a shit what you think either.

Thanks for posting something that goes against your own point...

 

[AudioDave]

wtf u talkin about now noob? It concurs with my point can you even read or you still in 3rd grade? "but the range shrinks during our lifetime, usually beginning at around the age of 8 with the higher frequencies fading."

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

not that much fading occurs. I can hear 12k pretty easily. Yeah, I can boost it and cut it a bit and it's not a huge difference, but the frequency is audible. 16k, not so much. My GF hears 16k about as easily as I hear 12-14, judging by how she reacts to tones when I turn it up, I let her tune my car on the top end for a competition once lol.

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Don't be mad noob. You might get a heart attack. Such general wording.

usually around the age of 8.7 certain individuals stop maturing and resort to name calling so they can feel that they're correct.