high quality mp3s? (in terms of kps)

[frankiebones 10+ year member]

this may be a stupid question, but when either burning an mp3 CD or using a direct ipod link (like in an alpine CDA-9856), do higher quality mp3's (i.e., 320 kps v. 120 kps) translate to better quality sound in a car system?

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[Decipha 10+ year member]

you'll notice a difference, rip a cd at 128kpbs and then rip the same cd at 320kpbs

burn them on the same disc in 2 seperate folders, do an A, B comparison, you'll notice a difference

btw i rip my cd's @ 320kbps MP3's

 

[frankiebones 10+ year member]

what i dont get is that, supposedly, CD quality is 128. so if u rip a CD to ur computer at 320 kps, its generating more quality than it is, right?

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

what i dont get is that, supposedly, CD quality is 128. so if u rip a CD to ur computer at 320 kps, its generating more quality than it is, right?

Personally I think 128kbps is NOT EVEN CLOSE to cd quality but thats just my opinion. The closest to Cd quality CBR that I've heard is 320kbps. But I prefer VBR by the Ubernet standard to be the closest to CD quality MP3 that I've ever heard.

If you'd like to find out how to encode your own VBR mp3s in this standard you can PM Chris (username: Ayrton) and he would gladly link you to the right place. It's all free software and well worth it.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/member.php?u=22939

 

[Kickerkitty 10+ year member]

this may be a stupid question, but when either burning an mp3 CD or using a direct ipod link (like in an alpine CDA-9856), do higher quality mp3's (i.e., 320 kps v. 120 kps) translate to better quality sound in a car system?

Look into something called LAME, it encodes MP3's with zero loss, a zero loss codec means it doesn't lose ANY sound quality by encoding.

In my case I encode WMA files, they are smaller and Windows Media Player 9 and up can do it lossless. Some decks can't play WMA's yet though.

 

[BigOso 10+ year member]

Firsat off cd quality is registerd at 192kbps. The general standard for ripping music is now a format called VBR (variable bit rate). It basically generates an exact copy of how the cd quality to your pc. You can rip at 320 but that is pointless. You can not turn a store bought cd into a higher quality one by simply ripping or converting it to a certain bitrate but you can lessen the quality by going to a lower one.

 

[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

yea, i prefer to rip mine to wma, and then convert with razor lame to mp3 vbr standard.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Look into something called LAME, it encodes MP3's with zero loss, a zero loss codec means it doesn't lose ANY sound quality by encoding.

The method I was talking about uses "Exact Audio Copy" extraction program with "LAME" for the encoding process.

 

[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

The method I was talking about uses "Exact Audio Copy" extraction program with "LAME" for the encoding process.

EAC is a great program.

 

[Cris 10+ year member]

Firsat off cd quality is registerd at 192kbps. The general standard for ripping music is now a format called VBR (variable bit rate). It basically generates an exact copy of how the cd quality to your pc. You can rip at 320 but that is pointless. You can not turn a store bought cd into a higher quality one by simply ripping or converting it to a certain bitrate but you can lessen the quality by going to a lower one.

You're terribly wrong. CD QUALITY is uncompressed, period. 128, 192, anything compressed is a LOSSY format. The only people who ever say cd quality is 128 or anything compressed are either a) trying to sell their product (like software companies) or b) ignorant to the reality of music quality.

Even 320kpbs is less than cd quality. I can tell the diffence between my mp3s at 192 and 320 kpbs, and even moreso when they're lossless (register anywhere between 800-1200 kpbs).

simply put, you can't compress music without losing quality. You may be able to compress it very well with formats like VBR, or stick to the highest format at 320 kbps, but its still a shell of what it used to be at FULL uncompressed quality.

The golden rule, in my opinion, is that in any format of audio, crap source material = crap sound. When I start sampling and listening to my music in my car, I make sure 100% that I have the highest quality source material (if cd, then original cd's, copies, or flac-ripped files... or if mp3, then 320kbps or VBR). This allows your system to work at the top of its potential from the very getgo.

to the original poster and anyone who doens't understand mp3s: 128 WASN'T, ISN'T AND NEVER WILL BE CD QUALITY. ONLY UNCOMPRESSED MUSIC IS CD QUALITY. If you can't tell the difference, you're either a) not very persceptive or b) your system isn't revealing (good) enough.

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[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

^^^ exactly why you can get 100 mp3s on a cd....

 

[_DjScrew_ 5,000+ posts]

**** double post

 

[headless 10+ year member]

Look into something called LAME, it encodes MP3's with zero loss, a zero loss codec means it doesn't lose ANY sound quality by encoding.

MP3 is not a zero loss technology. MP3 is a COMPRESSION technology. When you compress a CD into mp3 format, no matter what setting you choose, you are losing quality in the conversion process. There is no such thing as lossless mp3. There are other encoding types that ARE lossless (and some that are so close they claim to be but aren't quite...though are way better than mp3) but mp3 isn't among them.

 

[danteBirosel 5,000+ posts]

You're terribly wrong. CD QUALITY is uncompressed, period. 128, 192, anything compressed is a LOSSY format. The only people who ever say cd quality is 128 or anything compressed are either a) trying to sell their product (like software companies) or b) ignorant to the reality of music quality.
Even 320kpbs is less than cd quality. I can tell the diffence between my mp3s at 192 and 320 kpbs, and even moreso when they're lossless (register anywhere between 800-1200 kpbs).

simply put, you can't compress music without losing quality. You may be able to compress it very well with formats like VBR, or stick to the highest format at 320 kbps, but its still a shell of what it used to be at FULL uncompressed quality.

The golden rule, in my opinion, is that in any format of audio, crap source material = crap sound. When I start sampling and listening to my music in my car, I make sure 100% that I have the highest quality source material (if cd, then original cd's, copies, or flac-ripped files... or if mp3, then 320kbps or VBR). This allows your system to work at the top of its potential from the very getgo.

to the original poster and anyone who doens't understand mp3s: 128 WASN'T, ISN'T AND NEVER WILL BE CD QUALITY. ONLY UNCOMPRESSED MUSIC IS CD QUALITY. If you can't tell the difference, you're either a) not very persceptive or b) your system isn't revealing (good) enough.

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Dayum Cris well said.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

You're terribly wrong. CD QUALITY is uncompressed, period. 128, 192, anything compressed is a LOSSY format. The only people who ever say cd quality is 128 or anything compressed are either a) trying to sell their product (like software companies) or b) ignorant to the reality of music quality.
Even 320kpbs is less than cd quality. I can tell the diffence between my mp3s at 192 and 320 kpbs, and even moreso when they're lossless (register anywhere between 800-1200 kpbs).

simply put, you can't compress music without losing quality. You may be able to compress it very well with formats like VBR, or stick to the highest format at 320 kbps, but its still a shell of what it used to be at FULL uncompressed quality.

The golden rule, in my opinion, is that in any format of audio, crap source material = crap sound. When I start sampling and listening to my music in my car, I make sure 100% that I have the highest quality source material (if cd, then original cd's, copies, or flac-ripped files... or if mp3, then 320kbps or VBR). This allows your system to work at the top of its potential from the very getgo.

to the original poster and anyone who doens't understand mp3s: 128 WASN'T, ISN'T AND NEVER WILL BE CD QUALITY. ONLY UNCOMPRESSED MUSIC IS CD QUALITY. If you can't tell the difference, you're either a) not very persceptive or b) your system isn't revealing (good) enough.

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I don't think anyone thinks that 128 is CD quality. What "frankiebones" was asking was that his ripping and encoding software was listing 128kbps as "cd quality" which had him confused. My Music Match Jukebox lists 128 as CD quality as well......even though I know better. I will agree with you that if your source is bad your mp3s will be bad. I rip everything from original cds into VBR using EAC and Lame and they come out sounding great everytime. Its a more lengthy process but a small price to pay.