High End speaker setup

[bigwise1 10+ year member]

You could also run the Platnuim set with the upgraded midbass.

upgraded midbass? do you have a link for that?

 

[kublkmax 10+ year member]

here ya go. http://car.rainbow-audio.de/products/details.php?lan=2&pro=1&lin=2&art=231443

Better yet call this number 732-572-1969. The answers you see will be found there.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

^^^^^ not to be condisending but those are not even in the same league of speakers that we are discussing here. Now like I said I am a bit bias and have not heard them all we are talking about. I would suggest mixing up things maybe don't buy a set per say. Midbass I am big fan of the Powerline CS it is designed based on the profi sub. I love the the Cal 28 tweet but the supremo is not bad. I have not heard the Scans and would be very intersed to hear as a comparison. You could also run the Platnuim set with the upgraded midbass. Or if you are a true balla then just buy the Rainbow reference set and call it a day! Really no matter what you get is going to be awsome. Good luck and keep us posted.

Thx for the reply //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I thought about the Reference set, but it's way too much for me. So far most of the sets I am considering putting together is around $2k. I would really love the reference because it just seems so sexy! lol But I will try to keep u guys updated. I am planning on the Scanspeak Tweeters pretty much for sure. If I can find somewhere to get the Powerline CS Midbass (I am waiting for reply from Don), I plan on using those two or the Scanspeak tweeter and a reveator midbass from Scanspeak too. I havn't decided on my Crossover yet. I have the Arc DEX and Tru F1 crossovers in mind, but I am sitll willing to read other peoples replys.

 

[kublkmax 10+ year member]

Glad I could provide some imput. Yeah those refernce are sexy but out of my league. Cross Over I like the DXE freind of mine has it so I have played with it. easy to use great piece. Did you call Don? or PM? If you have not called the number is 2 post up.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

Yes, Don had responded he is busy working so he said he will get back to me with prices when he can. I will be still doing multiple set up considerations, but please anyone with anymore feed back please feel free to post them. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[GordonW 10+ year member]

I have a few ribbon pairs laying around...and how I would discribe them is shimmery..I tend to call ribbons the david copperfield of drivers...they give you this illusion of grandure but in all reality it's just smoke and mirrors..they are not tonally accurate IMO..not even close..plus they are huge...like esotar huge

Depends on where they're crossed over. The LCY ribbons, if you use the factory crossovers (as in, what they send with their "pre-packaged" ribbons in the cylindrical enclosures) are crossed over at 14KHz. So, they're TRULY suited to be ONLY SUPERTWEETERS. Running them lower (below 10KHz) can quickly cause "problem" behaviour...

I'm currently running a pair of the 110s, in a prototype high-end home setup (Radian cast-frame 8" coax, hand-built dual-10" woofers, triple 10" passives, etc)... and they're crossed in at about 16KHz (that's where the Radian horn tweeter in the coax starts to get "ragged", so I roll them out there, and go to the LCYs)... and there's nothing "shimmery" about them. Just plain good dynamics and very accurate, from both a time domain and frequency response standpoint...

Regards,

Gordon.

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

The ribbon in allot of cases are used as the only top end source..and not in a supertweeter config..I'm also not a mutiple point source fan, and IMO the fewer the drivers the better without any issues with dopler distortion...I have the LCY 130's, Raven R1's and Aurum Cantus G3's and the Raven's are by far the best out of the three but once again something I don't find as being tonaly truthful...

great read

http://www.zaphaudio.com/nondomes/

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

And if you guys think the powline cs drivers or plats are anywere as good as a scan or audio technology driver your crazy

 

[bigwise1 10+ year member]

And if you guys think the powline cs drivers or plats are anywere as good as a scan or audio technology driver your crazy

what about just the plat tweet?

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

For a door mount, I'd take the Powerline CS at much higher Qts (+0.6's), than the Scans that are more vented/sealed enclosure dependant. Revs IB/Free air sound boomy. The Rainbows are car environment designed, and will play pretty much optimally IB.

If you have the airspace for scans it'll be the cheaper route.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

For a door mount, I'd take the Powerline CS at much higher Qts (+0.6's), than the Scans that are more vented/sealed enclosure dependant. Revs IB/Free air sound boomy. The Rainbows are car environment designed, and will play pretty much optimally IB.
If you have the airspace for scans it'll be the cheaper route.

Yeah, thats the main thing I am tyring to decide. sealing the door for the speaker or just getting something I can throw in there for IB.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, thats the main thing I am tyring to decide. sealing the door for the speaker or just getting something I can throw in there for IB.

Did you decide on anything...your thread got me thinking it would be a good idea. Not totally DIY but not out-the-box either.

Nearly everyone likes that scan tweet, but what DIY mids? The seas excel? I think they do pretty good in doors but they are 7" and use alot more power. Also, buying a prefab crossover, how do you know which one to choose?

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Thats when its time to run em active..

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Thats when its time to run em active..

Then I have two questions.

a) can you go active with a channel amp if you use an active outboard crossover

b) How does the cal 27 tweet match up with the germ mid or profi phase cone mid or another suggestion that is suited in in-door IB applications with deadened doors.

The tweet is slightly off axis. For the driver's side, the stock location is as if you lifted you left arm perpindicular you would touch it. To be more specific, I am leaning towards a 99 Buick Regal.

 

[kublkmax 10+ year member]

yes you can go active with an outboard crossover. I would reconmmend it. The cal 27 would match with germ mid real nice, or with the profi. The germ comes with the cal 25 and that is not a bad tweet in its own right. I current ly have the Germs in my car until about Sunday. Then my Plats and powerlines go in.