Hifonics XXV Colossus good amp?

[Austin175 10+ year member]

when i had my xxv it was like more of a hassle then anything because with my voltage then clip light would always come on when the gain was not even half way up an it just pissed me off more then anything heck i had a old school 800 watt kenwood amp pushing my 2 xls better then the xxv lmao

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

dude learn to read before you try to correct me idiot...

no xx or xxv amp ever made has done less than rated even on subpar electrical...they were grossly underrated amps... and the collosus if you do some research was actually banned at 1 point because it made so much power and were thought to be a "cheater amp" so I have no clue what you think you know about them but you are dead wrong....

where does that say I ran it on subpar power?

now go back and reread ur own post moron... you said they were banned overseas, they were not.. you said it was because of advice from overseas... it was not...

it was because Team JBL threw a fit dude!!!! go reread all of it in english this time... everyone was complaining that it was 2 amps in 1 chassis which it was not!! and that it made way too much power because it was 2 amps, which it was NOT !!! and they outlawed it at the meet for world finals!!!

don't try to correct me on it you are dead wrong... learn to read... I gave you the direct fking press release that i copy/pasted noob..

someone else may not know what they are talking about. it was not banneed from producing too much power. it was banned overseas because It was sid to have 2 baords in one amp. essentially 2 amps in one case and was classified as 2 amps and not one..

your words not mine kiddo...

like I said I was THERE!!! I was competing with a JBL crown 6000A amp !!! it was our sponsors that threw a fit over the amp!!!

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

when i had my xxv it was like more of a hassle then anything because with my voltage then clip light would always come on when the gain was not even half way up an it just pissed me off more then anything heck i had a old school 800 watt kenwood amp pushing my 2 xls better then the xxv lmao

you had a blown amp or installed it wrong...

no way in hell an 800 watt amp will even push 50% of 1 channel on a collossus dude //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

here is the entire PRESS RELEASE:

For Release: January 1st, 2005

Press Contact —John Whitacre

johnw@Maxxsonics.com

Hifonics Colossus Outlawed for Too Much Power

Chicago, Il- Maxxsonics USA, the auto-sound parent and manufacturer of Crunch and Hifonics mobile audio sound systems was saddened to learn that its Hifonics 3200-Watt RMS XX-Colossus was banned from the dB-Drag finals held in Nashville, Tennessee and hereby launches a formal protest to that organization.

dB Drag announced less than 24-hours before commencement of the finals that the Hifonics XX-Colossus did not meet dB-Drag rules for amplifier design. Its competitors notified Maxxsonics of the organizations confused decision only after the final's event had taken place.

dB-drag took the advice of European dB-Drag judges, and branded competitors, alleging the Hifonics XX-Colossus was actually " two amplifiers " inside its heat sink, instead of one. The drama began with an email posted on dB-Drag's website forum, containing a portion of a personal Maxxsonics email response to a European end user with a DIY install question. The response contained a very brief and quick XX Colossus topography description, "It is two 1600-watt amplifier PCBs strapped inside". This statement was taken out of context, and was a small excerpt from a series of emails, answering installation questions.

A factual note; in early 2004, third-party European engineers independently certified Maxxsonics XX-Colossus as a single-amplifier internally for "CE" and the stricter "E-Mark" certification. College-degreed engineers prepared this E-Mark certification. They correctly certified the XX Colossus to be a single amplifier internally. However, hearsay and self-serving factors set the rash dB-Drag decision into motion.

dB Drag did not attempt to speak with Hifonics prior to its 11th-hour decision and instead turned away an unknown (see partial list of competitors below) number of participants who had spent thousands of dollars competing, and justly winning other dB-Drag events, all during 2004 with the Hifonics XX-Colossus.

"The decision smells of politics and jealousy" said Ted Henricks, Maxxsonics' Vice-President. It is also a shame the dB-Drag organization was pressured by "manufacturing judges and promoters" to make such a rash decision. The reality is, if you actually look at an XX-Colossus inside, you will see seven PCB boards, all completely different, and that it is, in fact, one amplifier. Using DB Drags' theory, you must accept that any four-channel or two-channel amplifier is a more than one amplifier inside. Hifonics has been developing high-powered amplifiers for over twenty-years and our engineering team spent over two-years in designing this product. Nobody called, nobody asked, dB-Drag just wanted to quickly satisfy some overly vocal and disgruntled dB-Drag participants who they knew they were going to loose," he added.

"We are sorry for their decision and also apologize to the people who have supported our products. We do not agree at all with dB-Drag but we hope that our competitors do not turn away from dB-Drag events due to dB-Drag's long-term commitment to the auto-sound industry. Conversely, we suggest that dB-Drag; if it is going to make engineering decisions, understand amplifier and subwoofer design with the assistance of a real electrical engineer. In addition, they better get it together because we know people will be rolling into the drag lanes in 2005 with our new 5-kilo-watt XX Goliath and 10-kilowatt XX Maxximus", stated Henricks.

Maxxsonics salutes the following dB-Drag contestants who were unfairly denied:

Eric Coulter

Charles Estes

Terry Jackson

Eric Alexander

Terry Brocks

Alex Avila

Bill Larkom

Shawn Young

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

no go read the fking title of that press release....

Hifonics Colossus Outlawed for Too Much Power

very first part of it....

hmmm like I said do not try to correct it... you have been found lacking...

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

I didnt either other than to show factual evidence and they were not "banned" really... they were outlawed at the finals in 2004 at the dbdrags ( here in the USA not overseas...)
it was later proven that they were just 2 PCB in 1 chassis but still 1 amplifier that ran in dual mono...ie stereo mode... but it still only had 1 input stage... same thing everyone else was doing as well... like AB VFL ect....... Hifi just did it better with better efficiency and made more power is all.. I know, we had the JBL/Crown powered white and yellow citation that was assraping everyone and the collossus was killing everything even worse and was rated almost 50% lower wattage..

here is a small excerpt to show you that it was not in Europe it was right here in the good ole south of Tennesee youngin'

Hifonics Colossus Outlawed for Too Much Power

Chicago, Il- Maxxsonics USA, the auto-sound parent and manufacturer of Crunch and Hifonics mobile audio sound systems was saddened to learn that its Hifonics 3200-Watt RMS XX-Colossus was banned from the dB-Drag finals held in Nashville, Tennessee and hereby launches a formal protest to that organization.

dB Drag announced less than 24-hours before commencement of the finals that the Hifonics XX-Colossus did not meet dB-Drag rules for amplifier design. Its competitors notified Maxxsonics of the organizations confused decision only after the final's event had taken place.

dB-drag took the advice of European dB-Drag judges, and branded competitors, alleging the Hifonics XX-Colossus was actually " two amplifiers " inside its heat sink, instead of one. The drama began with an email posted on dB-Drag's website forum, containing a portion of a personal Maxxsonics email response to a European end user with a DIY install question. The response contained a very brief and quick XX Colossus topography description, "It is two 1600-watt amplifier PCBs strapped inside". This statement was taken out of context, and was a small excerpt from a series of emails, answering installation questions.

A factual note; in early 2004, third-party European engineers independently certified Maxxsonics XX-Colossus as a single-amplifier internally for "CE" and the stricter "E-Mark" certification. College-degreed engineers prepared this E-Mark certification. They correctly certified the XX Colossus to be a single amplifier internally. However, hearsay and self-serving factors set the rash dB-Drag decision into motion.

so there ya go //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

if you know anything about the 6000A crown amp you know why Team JBL were so pissed...

lol.. now back to your post about it was banned for "too much power" .. lol .. man i can go all day. you tried to mis prove me by posting a quote identical to what i said. you bring your scrap *** hifonics to the lanes and we will see who knows what. i dont got time for an internet pissing contest.. see you in the lanes

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

here is the entire PRESS RELEASE:

For Release: January 1st, 2005

Press Contact —John Whitacre

johnw@Maxxsonics.com

Hifonics Colossus Outlawed for Too Much Power

Chicago, Il- Maxxsonics USA, the auto-sound parent and manufacturer of Crunch and Hifonics mobile audio sound systems was saddened to learn that its Hifonics 3200-Watt RMS XX-Colossus was banned from the dB-Drag finals held in Nashville, Tennessee and hereby launches a formal protest to that organization.

dB Drag announced less than 24-hours before commencement of the finals that the Hifonics XX-Colossus did not meet dB-Drag rules for amplifier design. Its competitors notified Maxxsonics of the organizations confused decision only after the final's event had taken place.

dB-drag took the advice of European dB-Drag judges, and branded competitors, alleging the Hifonics XX-Colossus was actually " two amplifiers " inside its heat sink, instead of one. The drama began with an email posted on dB-Drag's website forum, containing a portion of a personal Maxxsonics email response to a European end user with a DIY install question. The response contained a very brief and quick XX Colossus topography description, "It is two 1600-watt amplifier PCBs strapped inside". This statement was taken out of context, and was a small excerpt from a series of emails, answering installation questions.

A factual note; in early 2004, third-party European engineers independently certified Maxxsonics XX-Colossus as a single-amplifier internally for "CE" and the stricter "E-Mark" certification. College-degreed engineers prepared this E-Mark certification. They correctly certified the XX Colossus to be a single amplifier internally. However, hearsay and self-serving factors set the rash dB-Drag decision into motion.

dB Drag did not attempt to speak with Hifonics prior to its 11th-hour decision and instead turned away an unknown (see partial list of competitors below) number of participants who had spent thousands of dollars competing, and justly winning other dB-Drag events, all during 2004 with the Hifonics XX-Colossus.

"The decision smells of politics and jealousy" said Ted Henricks, Maxxsonics' Vice-President. It is also a shame the dB-Drag organization was pressured by "manufacturing judges and promoters" to make such a rash decision. The reality is, if you actually look at an XX-Colossus inside, you will see seven PCB boards, all completely different, and that it is, in fact, one amplifier. Using DB Drags' theory, you must accept that any four-channel or two-channel amplifier is a more than one amplifier inside. Hifonics has been developing high-powered amplifiers for over twenty-years and our engineering team spent over two-years in designing this product. Nobody called, nobody asked, dB-Drag just wanted to quickly satisfy some overly vocal and disgruntled dB-Drag participants who they knew they were going to loose," he added.

"We are sorry for their decision and also apologize to the people who have supported our products. We do not agree at all with dB-Drag but we hope that our competitors do not turn away from dB-Drag events due to dB-Drag's long-term commitment to the auto-sound industry. Conversely, we suggest that dB-Drag; if it is going to make engineering decisions, understand amplifier and subwoofer design with the assistance of a real electrical engineer. In addition, they better get it together because we know people will be rolling into the drag lanes in 2005 with our new 5-kilo-watt XX Goliath and 10-kilowatt XX Maxximus", stated Henricks.

Maxxsonics salutes the following dB-Drag contestants who were unfairly denied:

Eric Coulter

Charles Estes

Terry Jackson

Eric Alexander

Terry Brocks

Alex Avila

Bill Larkom

Shawn Young

Released by Maxxonics, not much validity there.

 

[duvalpoop 10+ year member]

Would this amp be more powerful than a autotek mx-5000? Lookin at buying one figured is ask.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

it has been shown elsewhere also that is just 1...

and they allowed the amp in the next year also... and appologized...

I was THERE dude .... I was competing with an amp that the sponsors did not want losing in the finals ....

either way you still misquoted me and were way the hell off...

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

ok man.. please meet me at a show.. and bring all the maxxsonics product you want.. lol..

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

dB-drag took the advice of European dB-Drag judges, and branded competitors, alleging the Hifonics XX-Colossus was actually " two amplifiers " inside its heat sink, instead of one.

did you miss that part too?

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

when we finish this build we will be taking it cross country to the MW shows //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

but it may or may not have Hifonics amps this time unless We can find a 2 Goliath's or 1 Maxximus.

 

[duvalpoop 10+ year member]

Can some Jus answer my lil question!!!!!!! Is this amp better than a autotek mx5000???????

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

yes it is better than an mx5000

an MM4000 is a dif story tho...

 

[duvalpoop 10+ year member]

Thanks I'm bout to get one for 275 and seen this ad so figured is ask I don't want to get rid of the mm but I want more power prob go after another one