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but everything is based off an atom. you can't prove where the atom came from. so everything in science is made from one entity that can not be proven where it came from or who created it. You just gotta believe its there and it somehow showed up. There's never gonna be a test as to where the atom came from. its not possible. Scientists don't even try. You just believe in the atom and keep moving.
kinda like God. nobody can prove God or where He came from. you just gotta believe He's there and keep it moving.
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Atom is not the smallest object in the scientific world. Hence is was created, at some point. You really have a scientific degree?

Im flt out mazed you cant comprehend the difference between the world of science which is dictated by relentless testing, and the world of religion that demands you live your live upon faith. If we lived our lived the way religion wants it, the world would be a lot different place right now, and you certainly wouldnt have a biology degree. You be praying to god to make your plants grow better or faster or stronger.

You chose not to understand. You are a scientist who still wants the ooption of going to heaven one day if science is wrong.

 
Like I said, evolution is fact. The theory of evolution as the synthesis for all beings is not fact, though it is the best explanation of the facts that we have.
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No it's not. Please stop saying that. Facts are just small individual peices of evidence. Theories explain facts.

Gravity or evolution will never be "facts". Theories are much bigger and more important than individual facts.

 
Measuring that a rock falls at 9.8 (m/sec)2 is an individual "fact". Gravity is the "theory" which best explains these "facts" and predicts thier future outcomes.
Gravity is a theory. Observing a rock falling at a measured speed is an individual "fact".

Light is a theory. Predicting how sun light will act thru a magnifing glass to cook an ant is a predicatble future "fact" that can be tested.

Time is a theory. Estimating how long it will take the UPS truck to deliver your package is an individual "fact" within the "thoery"

Energy is a theory. Calculating how many amps you will need to supply your amplifiers is a "fact" proven by this theory.

Sound is a theory. Measuring how many SPL your subs will hit is a measurable "fact" based on this theoy.
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Evolution is a theory. Seeing birds grow different shaped beaks is a fact.

This doesn't ratify the rest of the theory, though. Like Neil was saying earlier, I suppose you could say that the theory of evolution could be considered as a probable explanation of the beginnings of life. However, alternative theories should also be given weight in this argument, and not just ridiculed.

 
Evolution is a theory. Seeing birds grow different shaped beaks is a fact.
This doesn't ratify the rest of the theory, though. Like Neil was saying earlier, I suppose you could say that the theory of evolution could be considered as a probable explanation of the beginnings of life. However, alternative theories should also be given weight in this argument, and not just ridiculed.
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Feel free to pose some alternative theories. If you just mean creationism, well, nevermind, you are still just being contrary.

 
Atom is not the smallest object in the scientific world. Hence is was created, at some point. You really have a scientific degree?
Im flt out mazed you cant comprehend the difference between the world of science which is dictated by relentless testing, and the world of religion that demands you live your live upon faith. If we lived our lived the way religion wants it, the world would be a lot different place right now, and you certainly wouldnt have a biology degree. You be praying to god to make your plants grow better or faster or stronger.

You chose not to understand. You are a scientist who still wants the ooption of going to heaven one day if science is wrong.
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i know the dif between the 2, but science and religion (all kinds) share many similarities the biggest being righteousness. Everyone in science wants to be right so they test the hell out of everything to either prove everyone else wrong or themselves right. I did many experiments either trying to prove my theories right or someone else's theories wrong. But everything can't be proven, science is clear on that. Nothing can be considered "true" in the scientific community, just unable to be proven false at the time.

Now you have religions that are also based on righteousness. every religious body claims their religion is right and others are wrong. either they try to disprove another religion or try and prove there's is right. again everything can't be proven and it comes down to what is called faith in the religous community.

So they are both very much the same. the question is what you believe it. There's no way ANYONE can prove the beginning so you're just believing in what you want when it comes down to it.

 
Evolution is a fact. The theory comes from us as humans trying to explain how evolution happened. Jesus you people are dumb. This isnt christianity...we have proof evolution happened.
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I wouldn't call people dumb if you are going to insist on using the improper terms over and over. In fact, lets just not call people dumb at all. Lets just prove they are, if we can. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
 
Why is that your requirement to belive in evolution? The beginning of the universe is a completely separate argument from the development of the diversity in species. This is how I can tell you've never seriously considered these things.
You can't use god as the answer to the first atom, either, because god is an infinite regress.
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so you are putting parameters on evolutions? if it can be proven see it all the way through from the beginning? the creation of the universe has to be taken into account, don't be lazy and start with earth.

 
Like I've said time and time again. I didn't come to this thread to introduce my own beliefs because I know that this would most likely end up in me getting ridiculed. My beliefs are irrelevant in this discussion.

My presence in this thread has been "I reject the theory of evolution," and I intend to keep it that way.

 
I wouldn't call people dumb if you are going to insist on using the improper terms over and over. In fact, lets just not call people dumb at all. Lets just prove they are, if we can. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
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Show me where Im using improper terms. While you look here are a few showing Im not.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact

The potentially confusing statement that "evolution is both a theory and a fact" is often seen in biological literature.[1][2][3][4][5][4][6][7] This statement arises because evolution is used in two ways. First, the "fact of evolution" refers to the changes in populations of biological organisms over time, which are known to have occurred through scientific observations and experimentations. Second, the "theory of evolution" refers to the modern evolutionary synthesis, which is the current scientific explanation of how these changes occur. Misuse and misunderstanding of how these terms are applied to evolution have been used to construct arguments disputing the validity of evolution.

http://atheism.about.com/od/evolutionexplained/a/fact_theory.htm

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/lenski.html

 
i know the dif between the 2, but science and religion (all kinds) share many similarities the biggest being righteousness. Everyone in science wants to be right so they test the hell out of everything to either prove everyone else wrong or themselves right. I did many experiments either trying to prove my theories right or someone else's theories wrong. But everything can't be proven, science is clear on that. Nothing can be considered "true" in the scientific community, just unable to be proven false at the time.
Now you have religions that are also based on righteousness. every religious body claims their religion is right and others are wrong. either they try to disprove another religion or try and prove there's is right. again everything can't be proven and it comes down to what is called faith in the religous community.

So they are both very much the same. the question is what you believe it. There's no way ANYONE can prove the beginning so you're just believing in what you want when it comes down to it.
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So science and religion are very much the same because of the rigteous attitude many of the zelouts on each side hold? Pretty thin penn, pretty thin. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
How many times must I point out one is based on testing while the other is based on 'because its written' or 'because i say so'? You can say Im being righteous with my attitude by stating this, and then correlate that as some fundamental similrities between the two topics, but in reality that is human emotions trying to interfere with a fact and physics based world. A scientist should understand these things fundamentally, if they wihsh to be true to their career, and to themselves. Hedging your bets to get into heaven is to live a lie on both sides or the debate. Chose a side, quit trying to pretend you dont have to.

 
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