Hey you evolutionists...

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

I reject your assertion that evolution is a fact. Again, there are way too many holes in the theory of evolution (Notice it's theory of evolution, not fact of evolution) to make it plausible.

If you want to know some of the fallacies, I'm not going to sit here and explain them to you. Just google it. If you're truly open-minded, you shouldn't have a problem reading something that counters evolution, and not taking it as a farce. Searching for alternative explanations is excellent scientific practice, and just blindly jumping in the evolutionist circlejerk isn't very scholarly.

I've been taught evolution my whole life through public schools, and I reject it. Not just because of my religious convictions, but because it does not make sense logically to me.

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

Evolution just don't make sense,They say how things started as mud or goo (Whatever it was) then evolved and got better and better and better... look at effin nature. Its called the law of thermal dynamics. Entropy: When its left alone and not taken care of it falls apart...aka gets worse not better.

muck

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Sooooo.... you refuse to believe its real until you yourself dig up the 'missing link'? Or do you think Jesus sat all those bones out in the dirt for us to find, but left that one missing link just to prove its not real? Or maybe you think fossils are some vast left-wing conspiracy by Democrats?

Again, religion is not the reason I reject the theory of evolution. It is a unique theory that has uncovered a lot of interesting truths about the past of the planet, but it doesn't satisfy the requirements necessary to be deemed as fact.

I have nothing against the idea that humans may have evolved. I do, however, have problems with it being taught to children as fact.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I reject your assertion that evolution is a fact. Again, there are way too many holes in the theory of evolution (Notice it's theory of evolution, not fact of evolution) to make it plausible.
If you want to know some of the fallacies, I'm not going to sit here and explain them to you. Just google it. If you're truly open-minded, you shouldn't have a problem reading something that counters evolution, and not taking it as a farce. Searching for alternative explanations is excellent scientific practice, and just blindly jumping in the evolutionist circlejerk isn't very scholarly.

I've been taught evolution my whole life through public schools, and I reject it. Not just because of my religious convictions, but because it does not make sense logically to me.

Its just too much work to even type out what you believe in huh? Too much energy spent telling us how what we think is wrong to have any left to share your beliefs with us? Have you tried those new etra strength 5-hour energy drinks? Im hooked on them I have to admit, I had to drink 2 just to get through this reply.

Even your comment on 'notice its a theory' suggests you are not very educated on scientific testing. In science, the only 'faith' is in knowing that a theory can never be proven without infinite samples nd results, but may be disproven by a single result. To science, everything beyond raw mathematics is a 'theory'.

My theory is you didn't pay enough attention in science class.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Again, religion is not the reason I reject the theory of evolution. It is a unique theory that has uncovered a lot of interesting truths about the past of the planet, but it doesn't satisfy the requirements necessary to be deemed as fact.
I have nothing against the idea that humans may have evolved. I do, however, have problems with it being taught to children as fact.

You just cant tell us what children should be taught? Again, go out on a limb here, tell us what YOU believe. If your answer is 'gee I dunno' my reply will be that Id rather stick with the current school curriculum.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Just to add to an already great thread, there is no gravity either: http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p67.htm

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

Well it would be pointless for me to go and waste my time researching and typing, only to have you turn around and call me an ignorant retard. Evolution has a lot of evidence pointing its way, but it also has a lot of evidence pointing against it.

If there were a million truths about evolution and just one result to disprove it, this would be a pretty pointless argument. I'd more than likely agree that the evidence overwhelmingly points towards evolution. However, there are many many fallacies to evolution, and there are hundreds of books written about them.

Again, I'm not going to spend my time writing you a research paper containing all that I find to be incorrect about Darwin's theory. It'd be like pissing in the wind.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

You just cant tell us what children should be taught? Again, go out on a limb here, tell us what YOU believe. If your answer is 'gee I dunno' my reply will be that Id rather stick with the current school curriculum.

I don't have anything against kids being taught evolution as a theory. That's fine, so long as it isn't pushed as fact as it so often is. I'm not going into my beliefs, because that is irrelevant to this conversation.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Well it would be pointless for me to go and waste my time researching and typing, only to have you turn around and call me an ignorant retard. Evolution has a lot of evidence pointing its way, but it also has a lot of evidence pointing against it.
If there were a million truths about evolution and just one result to disprove it, this would be a pretty pointless argument. I'd more than likely agree that the evidence overwhelmingly points towards evolution. However, there are many many fallacies to evolution, and there are hundreds of books written about them.

Again, I'm not going to spend my time writing you a research paper containing all that I find to be incorrect about Darwin's theory. It'd be like pissing in the wind.

He's not asking you to disprove evolution with a 20 page explanation involving months of research...he's asking what do YOU believe.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Evolution is a fact. I don't know why you don't get it.

If you're talking about the Theory of Evolution as a method for the synthesis of all beings, then it is STILL the most probable scientific conclusion, supported by an unbelievable amount of evidence. That's why it's taught in science class.

Now if you want to debunk the entire field of biology, you had better make a fucking argument and bring some evidence.

 

[DidUHearThat? 10+ year member]

Basic science 101:

"Facts" are small individual pieces of evidence that are observed or tested.

"Theories" are grand concepts that attempt to explain how these individual "facts" are connected and predict how they will occur in the future.

Theory > facts.

You should not have slept thru 6th grade science class.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

nobody can definitively prove evolution, nobody can definitively prove God. Both take faith. So you're a believer in one or the other that you can't go back and see.

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

nobody can definitively prove evolution, nobody can definitively prove God. Both take faith. So you're a believer in one or the other that you can't go back and see.

Of course, but you can judge by probability. Not all things are equi-probable.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Well it would be pointless for me to go and waste my time researching and typing, only to have you turn around and call me an ignorant retard. Evolution has a lot of evidence pointing its way, but it also has a lot of evidence pointing against it.
If there were a million truths about evolution and just one result to disprove it, this would be a pretty pointless argument. I'd more than likely agree that the evidence overwhelmingly points towards evolution. However, there are many many fallacies to evolution, and there are hundreds of books written about them.

Again, I'm not going to spend my time writing you a research paper containing all that I find to be incorrect about Darwin's theory. It'd be like pissing in the wind.

Again you only have just enough energy to type out that you wont bother typing out what you DO believe in. Just enough energy to type out that you wont bother typing out any of these fallacies on evolution you so vaguely wish to employ as evidence of your oh so vague point.
Again, a 'theory' takes inifinite results to prove, but only one to disprove it. So yes, feel free to point out ONE SINGLE SOLITARY fact tht disproves the theory of evolution. We are all listening. Im open minded, if you know why its wrong, Id really like to know too.

I don't have anything against kids being taught evolution as a theory. That's fine, so long as it isn't pushed as fact as it so often is. I'm not going into my beliefs, because that is irrelevant to this conversation.

You yourself admit its called "the theory of evolution". I know when I was in school, it was never called 'the fact of evolution'. Quite the contrary, other theories were discussed, and even the 'missing link' topic was taught. WTF were during those classes?
And as Ive stated, science class definitely teaches you that a theory needs infinite testing to prove its true, but only one negative result to disprove it. So no, school does not teach children it is fact.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

There are parts of the theory of evolution that are fact. However, this doesn't mean that the whole package is fact.

It's a fact that objects fall toward the earth at 9.8 m/s^2. It's a fact that creatures adapt to their environment. It's not fact that God created everything in seven days, nor is it fact that humankind evolved from a primordial soup.

"Facts" are small individual pieces of evidence that are observed or tested.

I cannot see how scientists can claim the theory of evolution as fact when a vast majority of the theory can neither be tested nor observed. The only things that can be observed are the traces of microevolution that we have.