Help me understand

[TheGarageMaster 10+ year member]

Ok I have shops do my work so just want to understand.

I ordered 2 JL 1000/1 which I know is rated 1.5-4 ohm.

They are going to 2 JL 13W7's which are 1.5 ohm so what does that mean as the amp is rated 1.5-4?

The I have 2 JL Audio 300/2's also rated 1.5-4 ohm.

Those are going to 2 pairs of the MQ Quarts Q 216 Signature Series which are rated at 4ohms. My 13W7's are at 1.5 but door speakers are 4.0 does any of that matter.

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[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

It means that you amps will put out their rated power at any impedance level from 1.5-4 ohms. Your subs should wire to 1.5 ohms and the components will wire to 4 ohms each.

 

[TheGarageMaster 10+ year member]

I get that but is that a good thing though the rates are different?

 

[95volvosx 10+ year member]

it doesn't really matter, their diff speakers lol you'll be able to work it out, plus the shop is doing the work, let them figure it out

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Why do noobs pour thousands of dollars into a system when they have no clue about car audio?

 

[TheGarageMaster 10+ year member]

Why do noobs pour thousands of dollars into a system when they have no clue about car audio?

I am not a noob I have more systems then most people I just buy what I like I just want to understand the ratings. I will post pics of my vette and you will not say noob. Most guys here claim to know it all and I don't I just happen to be able to afford to have experts do the work. For me cost isn't an issue.

 

[Wkbdkid 10+ year member]

Jus because you know whats good doesnt mean yur not a n00b...

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

I am not a noob I have more systems then most people I just buy what I like I just want to understand the ratings. I will post pics of my vette and you will not say noob. Most guys here claim to know it all and I don't I just happen to be able to afford to have experts do the work. For me cost isn't an issue.

Oh snap! Don't bust out the vette pics //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Just because you can pay experts to install an expensive system doesn't clear you of noob-status, sorry //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[TheGarageMaster 10+ year member]

Oh snap! Don't bust out the vette pics //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Just because you can pay experts to install an expensive system doesn't clear you of noob-status, sorry //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Hey I don't understand how with the work they have done on my engine gives it 600 HP but we bought the best parts and it runs like a bat out of hell. Sometimes you guys like to think you are pros. If you can answer my stuff great if not move on.

I can't build a house but I have own 7 of them so does that make me a noob? You guys crack me up, what are you like 12?

 

[TheGarageMaster 10+ year member]

Oh snap! Don't bust out the vette pics //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Just because you can pay experts to install an expensive system doesn't clear you of noob-status, sorry //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

By the way the "vette pics" was because I designed they system and I thought you would like to see it, that's all.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

When you hook a speaker to an amplifier, you create an electrical circuit. The speaker, now part of the circuit, places a resistance on the circuit. In other words, it takes work/energy to move the cone, this is the resistance shown to the circuit. It is measured in ohms. The greater the number, the more resistance the speaker/coil shows its circuit.

Now lets look at the amplifier. Its output power could be looked at as a pushing force. In an example, a person is pushing a rock up a hill with all his strength. The person represents the amplifier, the rock is the speaker, the movement of the rock up the hill is the work produce (sound created from speaker). Lets adjust a variable and see what happens...

New example, same person, same hill, smaller rock. Remember, rock = speaker. Smaller rock poses less resistance to pushing it up the hill (less ohms). Same guy pushes with same force, smaller rock... net result is faster motion up the hill.

Point? Look at speaker impedance and amplifier force the same way. The amp is pushing with a specific force, its only two variables that change output are input signal strength (not relevant to this discussion) and resistance seen on the output circuit. Still with me? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif So as you hook up different speakers with different impedances to the same amp, output will scale according to the impedance of the speaker. Ohms = resistance = impedance (generally speaking).

So, your question, does it matter they are different. Well, each set of speakers is hooked to its own amplifier, they have their own relationship going on. The amp for the front speakers doesn't know whats going on between the sub and its amp, nor does it care. It only sees input voltage strength, nd output circuit resistance. These two couple to form the output of the amplifier (in watts). At this point, factor in adjustments for speaker efficiency (sensitivity) and enclosure efficiency, and you have the equation for actual output (very basically speaking here).

Hope that helps.

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

You guys crack me up, what are you like 12?

Throwing around how much money you have makes you just as bad as the people calling you a noob.

 

[dyabolical 10+ year member]

By the way the "vette pics" was because I designed they system and I thought you would like to see it, that's all.

You designed a system yet you don't understand impedance and such?

Wow...great credibility...own 12 homes? Wow....it's just....so HARD to believe such stupid BS...even on an internet forum.

Your probably some rich *** that thinks you are superior because you have money.

 

[TheGarageMaster 10+ year member]

When you hook a speaker to an amplifier, you create an electrical circuit. The speaker, now part of the circuit, places a resistance on the circuit. In other words, it takes work/energy to move the cone, this is the resistance shown to the circuit. It is measured in ohms. The greater the number, the more resistance the speaker/coil shows its circuit.
Now lets look at the amplifier. Its output power could be looked at as a pushing force. In an example, a person is pushing a rock up a hill with all his strength. The person represents the amplifier, the rock is the speaker, the movement of the rock up the hill is the work produce (sound created from speaker). Lets adjust a variable and see what happens...

New example, same person, same hill, smaller rock. Remember, rock = speaker. Smaller rock poses less resistance to pushing it up the hill (less ohms). Same guy pushes with same force, smaller rock... net result is faster motion up the hill.

Point? Look at speaker impedance and amplifier force the same way. The amp is pushing with a specific force, its only two variables that change output are input signal strength (not relevant to this discussion) and resistance seen on the output circuit. Still with me? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif So as you hook up different speakers with different impedances to the same amp, output will scale according to the impedance of the speaker. Ohms = resistance = impedance (generally speaking).

So, your question, does it matter they are different. Well, each set of speakers is hooked to its own amplifier, they have their own relationship going on. The amp for the front speakers doesn't know whats going on between the sub and its amp, nor does it care. It only sees input voltage strength, nd output circuit resistance. These two couple to form the output of the amplifier (in watts). At this point, factor in adjustments for speaker efficiency (sensitivity) and enclosure efficiency, and you have the equation for actual output (very basically speaking here).

Hope that helps.

Thank you that's what I was looking for.

 

[04redmach1]

Haha, ya, I like the vette pic throw up. Want pics of my twin turbo mach 1 that would have put that vette back in it's place //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Kevin

PS: Sold it, on another bowtie eating project