Gun Control

[ahole-ic]

Look at my words carefully. I included the words preventative measure for a reason. If you dont think that laws have any preventative effects, that people never think things like, "well if i murder my neighbor because he had an affair with my wife i will spend my life in prison so maybe i wont murder him," then i disagree but thats an argument probably best saved for another time.

It happens all the time. It's an act of rage. It's a crime of passion. People don't even consider the consequences. It's the same as making a law to pull down your pants before you poop. People that were going to poop their pants are still going to. It's not a preventative measure at all.

If anti aircraft rockets were fully legal there is no reason to think you couldnt just go to an internet store and buy it as you can with anything else, show me an internet store where you can buy an antiaircraft rocket just as easily. OBVIOUSLY, you can not do so, because THEY ARE ILLEGAL. To act as though obtaining something is as easy as "knowing where to go" and is always equivalently easy is absolutely ridiculous. Btw it is not accurate to say plutonium is not illegal, not just anyone can store radioactive material of any kind.

Show me an internet store where you can buy the items I mentioned. Your logic is self-defeating... and that's why you ignored it.

As far as plutonium, show me the law making it illegal.

 

[ahole-ic]

Like i said gun accidents are not of primary concern (however i may support a law that requires a lock on guns in a home where children live). Outside of target shooting, guns are made with the exclusive purpose of hurting/killing things. Very few people use their cars as weapons, and as i said, my primary concern is of the weapons that allow people to do things like the Virginia tech massacre -- again another high capacity magazine in the hands of someone with a psychiatric history that resulted in 33 dead and 25 injured in a short period of time.

The oklahoma city bombing claimed 168 lives. That is 5x the damage in 1/1000th the time or less yet you're not trying to outlaw ryder trucks or fertilizer. Your logic makes no sense. You're afraid of guns so you are trying to get rid of them.... and you can't just explain away the cars thing. More people are killed with cars than with guns PERIOD. Intentional or not, it happens more frequently. The difference is you're afraid of guns and you're not afraid of cars. It doesn't change the fact that you can be killed with both. You're just more likely to be killed with a car.

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

More people die each year from drunk driver's then gun shots........

I guess we need alcohol and car control......

Hell, more people die each year from smoking than from gun shots,

guess we need tobacco control....

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

It happens all the time. It's an act of rage. It's a crime of passion. People don't even consider the consequences. It's the same as making a law to pull down your pants before you poop. People that were going to poop their pants are still going to. It's not a preventative measure at all..

Am I getting trolled now? why are you wasting time typing this. Are you actually claiming that people never PREMEDITATE murder?

Show me an internet store where you can buy the items I mentioned. Your logic is self-defeating... and that's why you ignored it.
As far as plutonium, show me the law making it illegal.

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Plutonium -

United States Code: Title 42,2077. Unauthorized dealings in special nuclear material | LII / Legal Information Institute

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Am I getting trolled now?

Yes. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/boink.gif.91933e72f927f2cefc79aff02573090c.gif

 

[ahole-ic]

Am I getting trolled now? why are you wasting time typing this. Are you actually claiming that people never PREMEDITATE murder?

No it was called a bait. I got you to admit that the law doesn't deter people since there is such a thing as premeditated murder. Check and mate.

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Doesn't exist.

Plutonium -

United States Code: Title 42,2077. Unauthorized dealings in special nuclear material | LII / Legal Information Institute

Ok so I was wrong on plutonium but right on all the others.... the point still remains. It's just a good thing I used more than 1 example.

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

No it was called a bait. I got you to admit that the law doesn't deter people since there is such a thing as premeditated murder. Check and mate.

Eye for an eye Rocket Propelled Grenade 7 (RPG-7) Rocket for sale

Doesn't exist.

Ok so I was wrong on plutonium but right on all the others.... the point still remains. It's just a good thing I used more than 1 example.

read your links, that old deleted page contains an INERT rpg. Something less dangerous that a bottlerocket. also an rpg is not an anti aircraft rocket

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

No it was called a bait. I got you to admit that the law doesn't deter people since there is such a thing as premeditated murder. Check and mate.

Eye for an eye Rocket Propelled Grenade 7 (RPG-7) Rocket for sale

Doesn't exist.

Ok so I was wrong on plutonium but right on all the others.... the point still remains. It's just a good thing I used more than 1 example.

read your links, that old deleted page contains an INERT rpg. Something less dangerous than a bottlerocket. also an rpg is not an anti aircraft rocket

 

[ahole-ic]

read your links, that old deleted page contains an INERT rpg. Something less dangerous than a bottlerocket. also an rpg is not an anti aircraft rocket

Yeah, so it doesn't explode on impact. It's definitely more dangerous than a bottle rocket.... especially if you load it. This is not difficult. The fuse is still activated upon impact, there is just presently no explosive. Gunpowder or pyrodex could be loaded (the head screws off... my friend has some //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif ) and it will explode bigger than hell. Also, these are anti aircraft. Just because it proves you wrong doesn't make it wrong.

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

Yeah. It's the black HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) round used for "live practice".. that means it had the propellent in the rear motor section, but that was removed. It says "INERT." in Russian lettering on it. It comes in 4 pieces: the cap on the nose which replaces a regular HEAT round's impact fuse, the body section, the motor tube, and the rear cap. Asking for $1100 or best offer. These are increadibly hard to get in the USA right now, frustratingly. I went through hell getting it, but it is fully legal, of course. A couple ordinary people I have talked about these with have gotten excited about them and wished they had one. (I should show them around more.)

I guess you could hit someone over the head with it