Got a sweet on a plasma deal this weekend!!!

[tRidiot 10+ year member]

After reading through the misinformation in the first few posts, I gave up.

Here is the truth:

1. LED is inferior to plasma in nearly every way and usually costs 1.5-2x as much.

2. Plasma life is longer than both LED and LCD

3. Plasma has better picture quality, faster response time, better viewing angles than both LCD and LED

4. As mentioned above... black levels on LEDs are approaching plasma... still not there. Again, substandard technology, higher price.

5. Plasma "burn-in" is all but a thing of the past, unless you're a complete ****ing dumbass or buy the cheapest, shittiest plasma out there and abuse it daily. Think of a Pyramid amp running with maxxed gains all day long.

Only two areas where LED/LCD even compare to plasma:

- power usage (plasma is only slightly higher, despite the deliberate misinformation you may have read)

- brightness levels - only a factor in VERY bright rooms with no way to control lighting at all. 95%+ of home environments it won't be an issue

These are the things I learned in the 4 months of research I did on HDTVs before buying my 54" Panasonic G10 plasma.

Misinformation is out there... research is your friend.

 

[tRidiot 10+ year member]

really not a good deal...panasonic makes garbo now(i work in a tv store)shuda got a samsung.....but its w/e not my tv

Another example of a salesperson who doesn't know jack shit about what they're selling. lol You really should do some research on the things you're selling, there, bud. But then... the company often pushes certain brands, especially when they have a higher margin. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Samsung, while not a crappy product most assuredly DOES have horrendous customer service ratings.

Panny has gotten the best customer service reviews for several years now.

 

[mcsoul 10+ year member]

Another example of a salesperson who doesn't know jack shit about what they're selling. lol You really should do some research on the things you're selling, there, bud. But then... the company often pushes certain brands, especially when they have a higher margin. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Samsung, while not a crappy product most assuredly DOES have horrendous customer service ratings.
Panny has gotten the best customer service reviews for several years now.

Samsungs are nice, but I think they have color saturation issues. They can make non-cg movies look like cg to me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

They look great on video games though, and still very good on movies; I'd buy one if Panasonic did not exist at the price point.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

After reading through the misinformation in the first few posts, I gave up.
Here is the truth:

1. LED is inferior to plasma in nearly every way and usually costs 1.5-2x as much.

2. Plasma life is longer than both LED and LCD

3. Plasma has better picture quality, faster response time, better viewing angles than both LCD and LED

4. As mentioned above... black levels on LEDs are approaching plasma... still not there. Again, substandard technology, higher price.

5. Plasma "burn-in" is all but a thing of the past, unless you're a complete ****ing dumbass or buy the cheapest, shittiest plasma out there and abuse it daily. Think of a Pyramid amp running with maxxed gains all day long.

Only two areas where LED/LCD even compare to plasma:

- power usage (plasma is only slightly higher, despite the deliberate misinformation you may have read)

- brightness levels - only a factor in VERY bright rooms with no way to control lighting at all. 95%+ of home environments it won't be an issue

These are the things I learned in the 4 months of research I did on HDTVs before buying my 54" Panasonic G10 plasma.

Misinformation is out there... research is your friend.

wow, it's hard to take any information from someone who is so obviously biased...

besides you missed a pretty big difference, plasma tv's weigh an assload, LCD's, not so much.

 

[teen 10+ year member]

After reading through the misinformation in the first few posts, I gave up.
Here is the truth:

1. LED is inferior to plasma in nearly every way and usually costs 1.5-2x as much.

2. Plasma life is longer than both LED and LCD

3. Plasma has better picture quality, faster response time, better viewing angles than both LCD and LED

4. As mentioned above... black levels on LEDs are approaching plasma... still not there. Again, substandard technology, higher price.

5. Plasma "burn-in" is all but a thing of the past, unless you're a complete ****ing dumbass or buy the cheapest, shittiest plasma out there and abuse it daily. Think of a Pyramid amp running with maxxed gains all day long.

Only two areas where LED/LCD even compare to plasma:

- power usage (plasma is only slightly higher, despite the deliberate misinformation you may have read)

- brightness levels - only a factor in VERY bright rooms with no way to control lighting at all. 95%+ of home environments it won't be an issue

These are the things I learned in the 4 months of research I did on HDTVs before buying my 54" Panasonic G10 plasma.

Misinformation is out there... research is your friend.

oh... heres the truth guys...

idk the first thing abut the diffrence btwn plasma/ LED, but how can you just spit out a list of "facts" without backing it up with any info at all? alls you did was state your opinion just like the rest of them, except you claimed it was the truth before hand. really?

 

[tRidiot 10+ year member]

wow, it's hard to take any information from someone who is so obviously biased...
besides you missed a pretty big difference, plasma tv's weigh an assload, LCD's, not so much.

I don't give a shit if you think I'm biased or not... or if you take my word for it or not. I don't have anything at stake, I'm not trying to sell anybody anything, and I don't get a commission for referring anyone to buy a TV. I spent months personally doing the research, comparing prices, features, specs, reviews, ratings and in-person viewing sessions at multiple stores. Plasmas generally do weigh more... by a few pounds. Once you get them mounted, what's the diff? You still aren't going to mount a large LCD by yourself, I suspect. Splitting the weight difference between 2 people isn't that big of a deal.

My Panasonic 54" G10 weighs 84 lbs. The comparable Samsung LED 55" B8500 weighs 62 lbs.... but costs $4500. The Samsung 55" LCD B640 weighs 65 lbs... but again costs about 75% MORE than my G10. I spent $35 on a **** nice wall-mount which will hold up to 175 lbs, I think. So... 20 lbs doesn't really make much difference to me. What makes a difference to me is that I have a better picture, better price, and an overall better-performing product in the things that matter every day.

I don't see how weight is really that big of an issue when you're talking about a TV, myself. If you're spending several thousand dollars on a set, then spending a couple of extra bucks on good hardware and calling a buddy to help you lift it onto the wall shouldn't be that much of an issue... but if it makes you feel better that your TV mounted permanently on your wall weighs 20 lbs less than my TV permanently mounted on my wall... well, that's great for you, buddy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[infamous_e46 5,000+ posts]

your title implies that you either got free candy with your plasma television or a swisher sweet cigar

 

[tRidiot 10+ year member]

oh... heres the truth guys...

idk the first thing abut the diffrence btwn plasma/ LED, but how can you just spit out a list of "facts" without backing it up with any info at all? alls you did was state your opinion just like the rest of them, except you claimed it was the truth before hand. really?

I could make up sources all day long... go do the research and you will see for yourself that everything I listed is true and objective.

-LCD/LED response times are in milliseconds - plasma is in nanoseconds

-Dynamic contrast ratios are utter bullshit and have no bearing on real-world viewing. They are inflated by all the manufacturers - it's like max power ratings on amps.

-Plasmas cost much less than comparably-sized and -featured LCD/LEDs - objective and easily demonstrated.

-Black levels on plasmas are better - there is no argument to this... check any reputable website with reviews of HDTVs and you will learn it for yourself, don't just take some salesman's word for it while in an ultra-bright showroom.

Seriously, dude... go read for just a couple of hours and you will see... it's just like car audio... lots of bullshit out there, but when you take the time to learn about the technology you will easily figure out how to read through the bullshit manufacturers and salespeople spew at you to get you to buy the latest and (ostensibly) greatest.

 

[mcsoul 10+ year member]

your title implies that you either got free candy with your plasma television or a swisher sweet cigar

truff

 

[bamaboy 5,000+ posts]

the LED tvs are still LCD, everyone is talking like its a totally different technology, its just leds for backlighting instead of ccfl, it dosnt necessarily have any better picture, some can have better light distribution, the big picture improvment now for LED backlighting is local dimming where you can adjust of the brightness of certain leds to improve the contrast levels, and those are expensive atm

we bought a panasonic S1 1080p 42" for our apt, with a free bluray and free shipping for like $750 or so, it was a good deal and a 54" for 1200 is an awesome deal too, a 54" in our place would be ridiculous, loving it so far, watching movies at night with it dark in the room is awesome

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

I don't give a shit if you think I'm biased or not... or if you take my word for it or not. I don't have anything at stake, I'm not trying to sell anybody anything, and I don't get a commission for referring anyone to buy a TV. I spent months personally doing the research, comparing prices, features, specs, reviews, ratings and in-person viewing sessions at multiple stores. Plasmas generally do weigh more... by a few pounds. Once you get them mounted, what's the diff? You still aren't going to mount a large LCD by yourself, I suspect. Splitting the weight difference between 2 people isn't that big of a deal.
My Panasonic 54" G10 weighs 84 lbs. The comparable Samsung LED 55" B8500 weighs 62 lbs.... but costs $4500. The Samsung 55" LCD B640 weighs 65 lbs... but again costs about 75% MORE than my G10. I spent $35 on a **** nice wall-mount which will hold up to 175 lbs, I think. So... 20 lbs doesn't really make much difference to me. What makes a difference to me is that I have a better picture, better price, and an overall better-performing product in the things that matter every day.

I don't see how weight is really that big of an issue when you're talking about a TV, myself. If you're spending several thousand dollars on a set, then spending a couple of extra bucks on good hardware and calling a buddy to help you lift it onto the wall shouldn't be that much of an issue... but if it makes you feel better that your TV mounted permanently on your wall weighs 20 lbs less than my TV permanently mounted on my wall... well, that's great for you, buddy. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

idk what LCD sets your looking at but I can easily lift my 42" no problem. After looking it up, it says it weighs 47 pounds. It's not just the fact that it would take two people to mount a Plasma, it's the fact that your wall has to support twice the weight. An amateur can easily mount an LCD but if you don't know what your doing and try to mount a plasma, you'll end up with a big hole in your wall and a nice broken tv.

Is this a deciding factor? No, I just thought it was a positive point for the LCD side that you missed. But then again when your making an argument for something you usually don't point out positive facts for the other side //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I do agree that plasma's have much better contrast ratios. That's the only thing I dislike about my LCD. When I'm watching a movie that has a really dark part, it seems like the entire picture gets really dark. But when I'm watching something that's really bright (like Flight of the Phoenix) it looks amazing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I think you're all full of shit.

j/k

 

[dman4486 5,000+ posts]

whilst you guys are bitchin, I am laughing at the dicklixic title..

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

I think you're all full of shit.


j/k

o rly?

 

[blazeplacid 10+ year member]

1080p doesn't so much matter about tv size as it does the distance you are from the tv

I forget the exact math that you are supposda use but my 60" at 8' is right at the max for distance for 1080p to make a difference.

But this is all a math that is on paper and many will disagree.

Honestly its hard to tell the difference from 720p to 1080p from over the air signal

The marketing guys behind this have got it figured out, they want you to think if you dont have a 1080p you will have bad picture quality.

Kinda like people who say a 10" wont hit the same low notes as a 12"