Got a question for you guys

[supraman1379 10+ year member]

i always thought if some one robs you with nothing in hand , ie screwdriver , knife ,stick etc.., than you can shoot to maim? like shot to the shoulder or leg or something. but if they were to have something in hand that could cause some harm to you , your fam and your house than you can use deadly force. im sure there is ways you could get fuked. like shooting in the back when running, but in the leg would almost be like a civil arrest. you would call the fuzz after whatever gone down settled and itll be worked out fomr there. plus itll looked at alot more like what it is than something else and probably wont get prosecuted.thats how i always understood. hmm.

To me that sounds right. Meet force with force. If he was unarmed, then I would just eitherrack the slide on the shotgun and maybe he would get the hint.

 

[supraman1379 10+ year member]

Now en even better question.

My grandparents house keeps getting broken into while they are in ohio. (They have a house down here in Fl) Can someone sit outside with a gun and shoot them for tresspassing? Or shoot to maim possibly?

They just stopped by a lil bit ago and they were telling me how they keep getting broken into

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

Now en even better question.
My grandparents house keeps getting broken into while they are in ohio. (They have a house down here in Fl) Can someone sit outside with a gun and shoot them for tresspassing? Or shoot to maim possibly?

They just stopped by a lil bit ago and they were telling me how they keep getting broken into

you may never use deadly force. here is a precedent setting case and a brief discussion of the law. (person set up a trap with shotgun for defense of property/trespass).

Katko v Briney

Method- An owner of premises is prohibited from willfully or intentionally injuring a trespasser by means of force that either takes life or inflicts great bodily injury, and therefore a person owning a premise is prohibited from setting out spring guns and like dangerous devices which will likely take life or inflict great bodily harm, for the purpose of harming trespassers. The fact that the trespasser might be acting in violation of the law does not change the rule. The spring gun would be justified when the trespasser was committing a felony or endangering human life by his act. The rule is – deadly force is only ok when the trespass was committed felony of violence, or punishable by death, or endangering human life.

 

[ArrizX 10+ year member]

Are you sure? Thought i remeber this one the news...but i havent seen liar liar in a while hmmm

i think it was in lair lair because it really happened before hand and the movie made fun of it. i could be wrong though...

 

[chuksw9ve 10+ year member]

Ok,heres my .o2...If someone breaks in your house,you should at least know who your shooting...It would be bad if you took out the neighbors mentally challenged kid who didnt know what the heck he was doing.If someone is there and being a threat to you and yours,double tap,then head shot.If they just going through you stuff,confront them...they will either run away,in which you cant shoot them(unless they run somwhere they could be a threat,like your kids bedroom)in the back,freeze,and you hold them for the cops,or become a threat,in which you put lead and copper in they arse.I keep a Mossberg pump,AR-15 style stock,18"bbl with a comp choke tube,and a SW 9mm by the bed.

 

[Pyro_By_Nature 5,000+ posts]

I keep a Mossberg pump,AR-15 style stock,18"bbl with a comp choke tube,and a SW 9mm by the bed.

Afraid of the boogey man are we?

 

[chuksw9ve 10+ year member]

Well...Not really afraid...I'm just reeeeeeal protective of my wife and son.And my wife knows how to shoot,so one is the backup,for her,in the case that I get taken out.You can call me paranoid,but you can also call me ready.

 

[crunktimes.com 5,000+ posts]

It depends if your state is ran by a bunch of tree hugging sissys or not.. Here in MA you would get life for killing someone breaking in to your house to hurt you or your family.. In places like W. Virginia or Florida you would probably get a pat on the back from the mayor.

The biggest thing that pisses me off is all these clauses. I am sleeping in bed, my kid is in another room and some junked up ****head decides to break into my house. If he is just there to steal a TV or there to kill me, **** my wife and then kidnap my child who knows..

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

yep...the CJS is flawed with too many benefits IMO for the law breakers...

 

[PhatTonyDeMarco 5,000+ posts]

Regardless of any laws, I WILL kill someone that is robbing my shit...

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

Regardless of any laws, I WILL kill someone that is robbing my shit...

Hire me as your attorney in 3 years...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

once someone enters your house you can kill them

-Nick-

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

you may never use deadly force. here is a precedent setting case and a brief discussion of the law. (person set up a trap with shotgun for defense of property/trespass).
Katko v Briney

Method- An owner of premises is prohibited from willfully or intentionally injuring a trespasser by means of force that either takes life or inflicts great bodily injury, and therefore a person owning a premise is prohibited from setting out spring guns and like dangerous devices which will likely take life or inflict great bodily harm, for the purpose of harming trespassers. The fact that the trespasser might be acting in violation of the law does not change the rule. The spring gun would be justified when the trespasser was committing a felony or endangering human life by his act. The rule is – deadly force is only ok when the trespass was committed felony of violence, or punishable by death, or endangering human life.

as i've said it depends on your particular state laws, in oklahoma it is perfectly legal to kill someone if they invade your home and you felt your life was threatened

t depends if your state is ran by a bunch of tree hugging sissys or not.. Here in MA you would get life for killing someone breaking in to your house to hurt you or your family.. In places like W. Virginia or Florida you would probably get a pat on the back from the mayor. 

i agree, thats how it should be.

once someone enters your house you can kill them
-Nick-

yep. you can here, so long as you feel your life was in danger

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

as i've said it depends on your particular state laws, in oklahoma it is perfectly legal to kill someone if they invade your home and you felt your life was threatened
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i agree, thats how it should be.

yep. you can here, so long as you feel your life was in danger

exactly..I was referring to setting up a trap for people trying to get on the property, without consent, and or to steal property. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

coming in with people home is a different story...

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

yea, didnt read the 2nd half of that paragraph