Got a question for you guys

[smd4life 5,000+ posts]

Are you sure? Thought i remeber this one the news...but i havent seen liar liar in a while hmmm

yep from liar liar...and the guy didn't break in...he fell through her roof trying to break in

 

[supraman1379 10+ year member]

I have heard of someone robbing someones house. Taking a tv and running across the front yard and tripping over the sprinkler head. The robber sued the home owner and won

 

[Randy Savage 5,000+ posts]

Are you sure? Thought i remeber this one the news...but i havent seen liar liar in a while hmmm

Yeah..it was from Liar Liar...lol.

All I know is if someone broke into my house I'd stab them in the gut and beat their kneecaps with a baseball bat, then urinate on them, and blame it on the dog.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

in tenn...you can shoot someone and kill them for hunting on your property

do you have to eat em also ?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

 

[smd4life 5,000+ posts]

do you have to eat em also ?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

they have to be tagged by the game warden

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

they have to be tagged by the game warden

makes sense i guess

 

[smd4life 5,000+ posts]

makes sense i guess

lmao

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

if some one broke in to your house and fell and got hurt , they can sue you

Its different from state to state. In cali im 100% sure its like that, here in AZ, if someone is even attempting to break in, its fair game.

 

[supraman1379 10+ year member]

Its different from state to state. In cali im 100% sure its like that, here in AZ, if someone is even attempting to break in, its fair game.

I see them as fair game anyways. I mean, are you going to take the time to ask the robber what hes doing here and give him the oppertunity to shoot you?

Its like I said, for the person that breaks into my house, the click of the safety is the warning

 

[Calikid 5,000+ posts]

if some1 breaks into your house u can shoot them because its invading private property.

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

Just rack the slide & toss them a folding knife //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif There you go, you were defending yourself.

Seriously though, just racking the slide & saying dont move will make 99% of people automatically shit themselves.

Intimidation is a huge factor with shotguns, the sound it make will speak clearly in any language. They know what comes next.

 

[supraman1379 10+ year member]

Just rack the slide & toss them a folding knife //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif There you go, you were defending yourself.
Seriously though, just racking the slide & saying dont move will make 99% of people automatically shit themselves.

Intimidation is a huge factor with shotguns, the sound it make will speak clearly in any language. They know what comes next.

thats very true.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

The Castle Doctrine refers to a legal concept derived from English Common Law as it is presently applied in sections of the United States of America. It designates one's home as a place in which one enjoys protections from both prying and violent attack. In the United States, laws informally referred to as 'castle laws' can sometimes impose an obligation to retreat before using force to defend oneself. The Castle Doctrine provides for an exception to this duty. Provided one is attacked in their own home, vehicle, or place of business, in jurisdictions where 'castle laws' are in force, one may stand their ground against an assailant without fear of prosecution.

A close corrolary to a castle law is the " Duty to Retreat" law, which is the case in most U.S. Northeastern states, such as Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts (where Castle Doctrine takes effect only within the confines of the 'dwelling'). Castle Doctrine laws in the U.S. are sometimes referred to as the "use of deadly force" [1] or "no retreat" laws, and originate in the home, but are sometimes (depending on the state) extended to the automobile or the business or any place where one has a legal right to be (a campground or park, for example).

In some U.S. states, such as Iowa, there is an adverence in the law which requests that "no immunity" murder laws are unnecessary, and encourage escalation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine

But i still think the person has to pose a threat to you, like someone said, i dont think you could shoot them in the back.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

"Stand Your Ground" laws, sometimes called shoot-first laws by their critics, are statutes that allow the use of deadly force to defend against forcible unlawful entry or attack. These bills significantly expand the boundaries of legal self-defense by eliminating a person's duty to retreat from an invader or assailant in certain cases before resorting to the use of "defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another." [1]

Florida

The state of Florida in the United States became the first to enact such a law on October 1, 2005. The Florida statute allows the use of deadly force when a person reasonably believes it necessary to prevent the commission of a "forcible felony." Under the statute, forcible felonies include "treason; murder; manslaughter; ****** battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual."[1]

The Florida law authorizes the use of defensive force by anyone "who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be." Furthermore, under the law, such a person "has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony." The statute also grants civil and criminal immunity to anyone found to have had such a reasonable belief.[1]

Many supporters of the legislation, including the National Rifle Association, have dubbed the Florida statute a "Stand Your Ground" law, since it allows people to 'stand their ground' in defense of themselves and their property when attacked without fear of prosecution or civil lawsuits. Wayne LaPierre, the CEO of the NRA has said, "For someone attacked by criminals to be victimized a second time by a second-guessing legal system is wrong."[2]

Critics of the legistation, however, fear that laws like this will lead to a rise in gun-related deaths by encouraging vigilantism and pre-emptive shootings. Zach Ragbourn, a spokesperson for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, has said that laws like Florida's "are more accurately called 'Shoot First' laws. They allow a person who just feels something bad is going to happen to open fire in public."[2]

[edit] Other states

Since the enactment of the Florida legislation, South Dakota, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Indiana have adopted similar statutes, and other states (Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Washington and Wyoming) are currently considering "Stand Your Ground" laws of their own.[2]

Some of the states that have passed or are considering "stand your ground" legislation already are considered "stand your ground" in their case law. These states include: Washington State (per State v. Reynaldo Redmond), Indiana, and Georgia. Though stand your ground is already caselaw in these states, these states still passed "stand your ground" into statute due to possible concerns of the caselaw being replaced by "duty to retreat" by future court rulings. Also, these states did not have civil immunity for self defense in their previous self defense statutes.

Utah has historically adhered to the principles of "stand your ground" without the need to refer to this new legislation. The use of deadly force to defend persons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law

 

[geowick07 10+ year member]

The scene from Liar Liar, the guy fell through a sky-light i think. and yes, i believe if someone comes into your house, you should be able to just click the safety and rack the slide. let them shit their pants. then, thats vandalism, and then you can shoot them. lol! i dont know, i think if someone that you dont know comes into your house without permission, they should be fair game. but, that is just the government protecting criminals, which is becoming very popular the last 5-10 years. Just my $0.02