Got a question for all the people on CA

[kickerlivinloud 10+ year member]

And this is true for SPL and Daily set ups

I would not recommend it for a daily setup. For best results you want a small box and high tuning which is good if you competing with test tones but if you plan on having a DD this would not work well. You will lose your low end with the higher tuned box and mostlikely lose sound quality. This is not %100 sure way of getting higher SPL numbers b/c every car and situation is different but if your going for pure SPL numbers its a good place to start...

Jon

 

[Kenneth10483 10+ year member]

Well would you compare a DD sub to a Audioque Sub?

If so, Ask Skip01 how well his 1 12 sounded in a box just big enough to fit the sub and port in for daily tuned low

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

There's a reason your woman calls me so much, bigger is better.

 

[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

If so, Ask Skip01 how well his 1 12 sounded in a box just big enough to fit the sub and port in for daily tuned low

And that box was too big //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Tuned to mid 40s, no prob crushing the lows

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

Funny you should say Eclipse Call the eclipse tech line and ask them what size box they would recommend for the most output of that sub.......

Everything you're talking about is frequency dependent.

most output - at what frequency? Maybe I wanted the most output at 20hz. If I wanted my peak frequency to be at 45-50hz, maybe I would throw it in 1 cube sealed, like eclipse recommends, and how I had the sub running.

Do you know why the recommendations are the way they are? Because that is what gives the response curve a semi-"flat" nature with a peak in the middle. This peak creates the illusion to the consumer that their subs are LOUD and can POUND.

 

[DDeitz 10+ year member]

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[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

lol. Its all power and install dependent. Blanket statements do not work in car audio.

If you are using less than rms its usually a good idea to go a little larger box as it ups efficiency.

Using many times rated power or spl most times you will be better of in a smaller box.

Notice either of these conclusions will be applicable in all situations.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Everything you're talking about is frequency dependent.
most output - at what frequency? Maybe I wanted the most output at 20hz. If I wanted my peak frequency to be at 45-50hz, maybe I would throw it in 1 cube sealed, like eclipse recommends, and how I had the sub running.

Do you know why the recommendations are the way they are? Because that is what gives the response curve a semi-"flat" nature with a peak in the middle. This peak creates the illusion to the consumer that their subs are LOUD and can POUND.

yeah that too.

 

[damonhargroves 10+ year member]

lol. you ask us why but you complain and have an excuse for all our answers. dont ask questions if you got a smart ass remark for our answers.

that is all

 

[DDeitz 10+ year member]

I think he had a legit point..it seems no matter how much power people have on CA.com they like to use larger boxes for the most part.

 

[Kenneth10483 10+ year member]

Everything you're talking about is frequency dependent.
most output - at what frequency? Maybe I wanted the most output at 20hz. Because that is what gives the response curve a semi-"flat" nature with a peak in the middle. This peak creates the illusion to the consumer that their subs are LOUD and can POUND.

First off If your going to tune a box to 20 Hz for daily its going to be kind of a waste considering most subs will not perform at that low and secondly you would have to have a wide bandwidth for it to play any type of regular music. I can take a sub build a box for a 12 at 1.5-1.75 tune it low and It will play the lows with good control not like a flutter which you would get out of a big box and also how a strong anf tight bass responce which everyone wants in a daily setup.

 

[kickerlivinloud 10+ year member]

lol @ thread.

Agreed

 

[damonhargroves 10+ year member]

First off If your going to tune a box to 20 Hz for daily its going to be kind of a waste considering most subs will not perform at that low and secondly you would have to have a wide bandwidth for it to play any type of regular music. I can take a sub build a box for a 12 at 1.5-1.75 tune it low and It will play the lows with good control not like a flutter which you would get out of a big box and also how a strong anf tight bass responce which everyone wants in a daily setup.

I have a 02 2dr Honda Accord and with 2 Kicker CVX 10s on a Power Acoustik 3000db which is maybe 900 watts in a ported probox it was doing a 147.5 outlaw so If you go with 2 L5 10s in a good box shouldnt have no problems doing respectable numbers!!!

^^^ if you are so good at building boxes mr. guru then why do you have a probox? lol! or do you just call your boxes proboxes since you are so good at it.

 

[97gp 5,000+ posts]

Ok hitler, why don't you let us build our boxes how we want.

 

[Kenneth10483 10+ year member]

Im not trying to have a Smart A$$ remark im just trying to figure out why most of you insist on using large enclosures mostly from what I seen on here trunk cars they try to cram a hugh box in the trunk and then the sound coming from the trunk cant come out because the box is sheilding it off from the inside of the car.

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

First off If your going to tune a box to 20 Hz for daily its going to be kind of a waste considering most subs will not perform at that low and secondly you would have to have a wide bandwidth for it to play any type of regular music. I can take a sub build a box for a 12 at 1.5-1.75 tune it low and It will play the lows with good control not like a flutter which you would get out of a big box and also how a strong anf tight bass responce which everyone wants in a daily setup.

I didn't know you can tune a sealed box.

Everyone knows it but you: Install dependent and what the goals of the install are.

 

[Kenneth10483 10+ year member]

^^^ if you are so good at building boxes mr. guru then why do you have a probox? lol! or do you just call your boxes proboxes since you are so good at it.

That box was a small box from probox it was 1.25 per sub so of course I didnt have a problem using it since I got it for a good price. And im not saying im the best box builder..

 

[Kenneth10483 10+ year member]

I didn't know you can tune a sealed box.
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Well if you ever messed with a 4th order bandpass you will know that you can tune a sealed box because it works off the tuning frequency of the sealed box and the ported enclosure that the sealed box its in to get it its frequency bandwidth......

 

[twisztdpunisher 10+ year member]

lol. you ask us why but you complain and have an excuse for all our answers. dont ask questions if you got a smart ass remark for our answers.
















































that is all

yeah really. it all depens on the install. we like big boxes cause big boxes work for what we want.

 

[damonhargroves 10+ year member]

Well if you ever messed with a 4th order bandpass you will know that you can tune a sealed box because it works off the tuning frequency of the sealed box and the ported enclosure that the sealed box its in to get it its frequency bandwidth......

wrong! get on crutchfield and read some more noob! o yea and we prolly build big boxes because they sound good to us!