good 4" mids?

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

need some suggestions on some 4" mids that can handle 75 watts rms and are 4 ohms. not looking for anything bigger just 4's. i was thinking of some kicker resolution mids.

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[bigwheel15 10+ year member]

Maybe a set of cdt cl-41's. Or just the mid, cl-4's.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Maybe a set of cdt cl-41's. Or just the mid, cl-4's.

i kinda just wanted the mids because i would use my boston acoustic tweeters and get a set of 4" mids to fit my door, and run an active system. i'll look into the cdt's

 

[Kali77 10+ year member]

I don't know if you can fit 4.5" mids but if so these are worth taking a look at //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=3587780.15564&pid=984

Kali

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

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[Kali77 10+ year member]

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=3587780.15564&pid=1707

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=3587780.15564&pid=1367

And you can find some good reviews over at diymobileaudio.com

Kali

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

well i just bought some kicker resolution mids because they were only 30 bucks. what whould i set the high pass at on those mids? and what about the tweeters?

 

[Kali77 10+ year member]

well i just bought some kicker resolution mids because they were only 30 bucks. what whould i set the high pass at on those mids? and what about the tweeters?

Do you have dedicated midbass? Where are they crossed over if so? What tweets do you have? Post there specs. Put a link up with the Kicker specs. It is going to be subjective though. Crossover points and such are going to vary from car to car. However there are some general starting points.

Kali

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Do you have dedicated midbass? Where are they crossed over if so? What tweets do you have? Post there specs. Put a link up with the Kicker specs. It is going to be subjective though. Crossover points and such are going to vary from car to car. However there are some general starting points.
Kali

i don't have a dedicated midbass yet, but i just wanted to know what a 4" mid would play down too. i listen to rap and from using numerous mids i get the feeling there is no midbass so i'm not really wasting my time with it.

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

i just heard some morel mw266 4" and 4ohm version in an ECA members car in yesterday's NE meet - very nice, but i cant see myself running such a small driver lower than 100hz- 4's are more of a dedicated midrange category

you can check those on madisound

 

[OlogyAudio 10+ year member]

It depends on the mid -- some will take a 150hz 4th order highpass and be more than happy -- a rare few will take 80...... most I wouldn't use under 300hz if you have a nice midbass....... I typically put the xover point on a 3 way inbetween 300hz-1.2khz depending on the drivers being used....

 

[Kali77 10+ year member]

I don't think I would personally run a 4" driver as full range. I would think you would be much happier running a midbass driver to like 200-250hz maybe higher depending on the driver, and then having the midrange pick it up from there and see how things sound. I have not looked at the specs on the kicker so I don't know there optimal frequency range. I am pretty sure it is not meant to be a full range driver.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

see what i wanted tp do is bandpass the 4" mid. say 150 hz. to 1khz. then have my tweeters play 1 khz and up. i'm not an audiophile and i just want my music loud and clear. i'm not sure where to begin to set my xovers. i'll adjust them probably to my liking but i want to know a good starting point. i cannot fit a bigger mid in my door so that's out of the question. i may put some dedicated mids in the rear but i'm not sure how that would sound as i'm not a fan of rear fill.

 

[Kali77 10+ year member]

see what i wanted tp do is bandpass the 4" mid. say 150 hz. to 1khz. then have my tweeters play 1 khz and up. i'm not an audiophile and i just want my music loud and clear. i'm not sure where to begin to set my xovers. i'll adjust them probably to my liking but i want to know a good starting point. i cannot fit a bigger mid in my door so that's out of the question. i may put some dedicated mids in the rear but i'm not sure how that would sound as i'm not a fan of rear fill.

Well give it a try. Maybe the 4" mid will be fine at 150hz. One way to find out //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

see what i wanted tp do is bandpass the 4" mid. say 150 hz. to 1khz. then have my tweeters play 1 khz and up. i'm not an audiophile and i just want my music loud and clear. i'm not sure where to begin to set my xovers. i'll adjust them probably to my liking but i want to know a good starting point. i cannot fit a bigger mid in my door so that's out of the question. i may put some dedicated mids in the rear but i'm not sure how that would sound as i'm not a fan of rear fill.

Just an FYI: chances are good you'll need to lowpass them higher than 1khz. Not many tweeters can handle such a low xover point.....1500hz is pretty "rare" for a tweeter. Most (not all, but most) will like 2khz or higher at the lowest. Some may not even like 2500hz as an xover point.......just depend on the tweeter. But I seriously doubt you'd find a tweeter that would really enjoy or work well with a 1khz highpass; or atleast you wouldn't be able to crank it with that low of an xover point without major distortion/damage. A "general" rule of thumb for tweeter highpass frequency is atleast twice it's Fs. Mind you, this is dependent upon slope, etc.....but it's a good starting point and should give you a reference of generally what a good xover point for the tweet would be.

IMHO I'd start out trying the 4's @ ~300hz highpass with the slope as steep as possible, and gradually drop the xover point (with the volume at your loudest typical listening level) till you hear the 4" start to stress. Then whatever suits your needs for the lowpass...probably in the 2-2.5khz region.

I skimmed most of the thread....but did I read you have no real plans for a midbass? Yeah.....after re-reading; you definitely would not be wasting your time with a midbass even though you listen to rap. Hell; with rap the majority of the "bass" is actually in the midbass region //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif I remember that popular song by Drama about 5 years back (can't think of the name).....that song had tons of midbass content.