Fully active Front and Rear Stage HELP!!

[jdubbau 10+ year member]

Need help on setting up an active front and rear stage and want to make sure I am going about it the right way before I purchase any amps.

If I go active with a 3 way front stage "Eclipse's Flagship Components" set up and two Infinity coaxial speakers in rear doors hooked up to 1 6 channel amp for front component stage and 1 2 channel amp for rear stage to where all speakers have their own channel of an amp. I guess I could also do 2 4 channel amps too if this portion is correct for an active set up?

Next I wanted to see if I can use my clarion eq 7 band with Front/Rear/and sub outputs so each amp has its own spot as that is what I assume an active deck is? I could be wrong but that is what I could gather is that all the amps had a specific spot just like the speakers all have a specific spot/channel the go on. Please let me know if this will work instead of buying a cd/dvd player that is "active"

For the most part besides the subs is this all I need for a fully active set up if this all I need to do?

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[jdubbau 10+ year member]

Ok I think I am getting closer to figuring out what I need now so tell me if I am wrong.

LOSE the rear speakers all together dont even do em.

Us a 3 Way Xover/ EQ w/xovers, Active HU with Xovers to send signal to amps so that signal is already xover before it hits the amps. Then the amps xovers are set and they send the xover signal to each speaker from each channel?

Also I can use what ever amp combo I need to so that each speaker has its own channel and can be crossed over?

 

[Side Show 10+ year member]

think you'll need a bandpass/highpass and lowpass filters in the amp

 

[mcsoul 10+ year member]

Are you going full 3-way active on your front stage off of the 6 channel amp's crossover or another crossover? The Eclipse 3-way speakers I'm aware of use a passive crossover and would require only 2-channels of amplification with a lowish Highpass of about 60-70Hz (don't try to send them 30hz and above as rated).

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_7477_Eclipse+SC8365.html

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

No.

nG

 

[wasted ink 10+ year member]

Running a 7 band EQ doesn't mean you're running active. Not even close. I believe the set you're speaking of uses passive crossovers, though I could be wrong. There's a sticky around here in one of the sections that explains running an active setup.

 

[jdubbau 10+ year member]

NO. (THANKS for all the detail)

Yes I want to be able to run a 6 channel with x overs or 1 4channel and 1 2 channel to run my eclipse 3 way comps that did come with passive xovers but I am trying to go active but not getting much help just your an idiot replies.

I need to make sure I have this portion of the active set up understood before I move on to the amps and what type of crossovers they come with and what I will need. Such as an amp with bandpass/high pass, and low pass xovers on them.

Not sure why this is not correct above but if anyone could tell me what is wrong with it or tell me in detail how to make it work with changes I would appreciate it.

 

[wasted ink 10+ year member]

Some of us we're trying to help, and you pawned us all off. Like I said, all of your answers are in the sticky. READ IT.

If you want to be ignorant and choose not to use the resources provided, cool, I don't care, and I doubt anyone else does. But to be negligent and ignorant and then expect people to spoonfeed you is bullshit.

 

[mcsoul 10+ year member]

NO. (THANKS for all the detail)


Yes I want to be able to run a 6 channel with x overs or 1 4channel and 1 2 channel to run my eclipse 3 way comps that did come with passive xovers but I am trying to go active but not getting much help just your an idiot replies.

I need to make sure I have this portion of the active set up understood before I move on to the amps and what type of crossovers they come with and what I will need. Such as an amp with bandpass/high pass, and low pass xovers on them.

Not sure why this is not correct above but if anyone could tell me what is wrong with it or tell me in detail how to make it work with changes I would appreciate it.

There are not a lot of things you can do to go 3-way active and keep rear fill.

Maybe a product like the RF 360.2 or the high end Alpine processor. By the time

start spending the money to do it right, the "high end" eclipses are not looking

so high end anymore. The major problems are time correction and bandpass on

the tiny eclipse midrange.

In a nutshell stay passive.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

The only rear speakers I'd ever suggest running are midbasses by themselves, and at very low volumes so that you can't even tell they're there. Running tweets behind you just draws too much attention to the rear, and just kills the whole situation for me.

Reinforcing the ~80-3khz range is doable but it's not even worth doing IMO. Invest that would-be rear speaker money into better comps up front and/or more power to amp them with.

 

[jdubbau 10+ year member]

Will this deck work as an active HU for me? JVC KD-G820 it has 3 pre outs 1 for sub, and I beleive a front and rear. It has the Low/Mid/High crossovers built into the deck with a Sub Crossover to. It will let you adjust the cutoff point for all of these frequencies and also adust the Q?

Not sure if it will work as I am not sure if I can use it as it has the front and rear and i thought someone said I would have to have Low/Mid/High preouts?

If it does work is it still ok for me to hook up a line driver to get the rca voltage up to all my amps?

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[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

will your HU let you bandpass the mids? If so then you can use it for running active...

And personally I'd just run your comps with the passive xovers they came with. If you want to go active step up and get some better drivers.

 

[jdubbau 10+ year member]

I thought for a starter set these where not bad at $500 retail a while back?