For the last time, PLEASE: clipping does NOT blow speakers/subwoofers

[Haunz 10+ year member]

Look at what happens to the speaker at that point in time. The reason it sounds funny, is because the speaker isn't following it's smooth sine wave anymore. It has an interuption in the sine wave that pushes the speaker straight out. Then the speaker struggles to get back into it's sine wave path.
Come on guys, you are supposed to be Electrical Engineering students. What does DC look like on an Oscilloscope? It is a straight line. Much like what you are seeing when your signal gets clipped. Exactly like that actually.

I don't know how you can argue this.

Murray

You are a moron.... and have absolutly no idea what you are talking about....

Please, STOP POSTING

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[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I just thought I'd stop by and say...

Well durr...

nG

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

Yes, there is a period of time where your heart is sitting there not doing anything. It doesn't mean you're dead, it just means for that time period, you're heart is not beating. That is a great arguement for what I am saying.
Look at what happens to the speaker at that point in time. The reason it sounds funny, is because the speaker isn't following it's smooth sine wave anymore. It has an interuption in the sine wave that pushes the speaker straight out. Then the speaker struggles to get back into it's sine wave path.

Come on guys, you are supposed to be Electrical Engineering students. What does DC look like on an Oscilloscope? It is a straight line. Much like what you are seeing when your signal gets clipped. Exactly like that actually.

I don't know how you can argue this.

Murray

When I look at a clipped signal on an oscilloscope, I see AC. Again, you have to define a window in which your argument is true; the window you have defined is illogical and irrelevant, and increasingly so at high frequencies. Even more importantly, a Fourier Transform mathematically proves that there are no DC components. I explained this several posts ago.

The reason the speaker sounds funny is because it is reproducing a fundamental frequency and its higher order harmonics. Your fundamental understanding of what clipping is seems to be a bit limited, honestly.

I don't know how you can misunderstand this.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Yes, there is a period of time where your heart is sitting there not doing anything. It doesn't mean you're dead, it just means for that time period, you're heart is not beating. That is a great arguement for what I am saying.
Look at what happens to the speaker at that point in time. The reason it sounds funny, is because the speaker isn't following it's smooth sine wave anymore. It has an interuption in the sine wave that pushes the speaker straight out. Then the speaker struggles to get back into it's sine wave path.

Come on guys, you are supposed to be Electrical Engineering students. What does DC look like on an Oscilloscope? It is a straight line. Much like what you are seeing when your signal gets clipped. Exactly like that actually.

I don't know how you can argue this.

Murray

No, but it isn't. it's still a wave function with respect to time, DC current is not. Whether or not you completely clip an AC signal in no way makes it DC current. Hell, for all you're saying, if you take an unclipped signal and zoom in on the curve just enough so that at one point on the sine curve, the wave looks flat, you could argue that at any given moment of an AC signal, it's actually DC. That's absurd, and you can't just select a brief window and call it DC. If it's changing at all, it isn't DC.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

You are a moron.... and have absolutly no idea what you are talking about....

Please, STOP POSTING

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//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Be nice.

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

Yes, there is a period of time where your heart is sitting there not doing anything. It doesn't mean you're dead, it just means for that time period, you're heart is not beating. That is a great arguement for what I am saying.
Look at what happens to the speaker at that point in time. The reason it sounds funny, is because the speaker isn't following it's smooth sine wave anymore. It has an interuption in the sine wave that pushes the speaker straight out. Then the speaker struggles to get back into it's sine wave path.

Come on guys, you are supposed to be Electrical Engineering students. What does DC look like on an Oscilloscope? It is a straight line. Much like what you are seeing when your signal gets clipped. Exactly like that actually.

I don't know how you can argue this.

Murray

It is a slope of 0, not DC. How many times do I have to repeat this?

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

It is a slope of 0, not DC. How many times do I have to repeat this?

I guess that the sine function at pi/2 is DC current too then!

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I skipped reading this thread, because I figured id read someone posting about the same bullshit "AC turns into DC" argument. Im so happy I was right //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

I skipped reading this thread, because I figured id read someone posting about the same bullshit "AC turns into DC" argument. Im so happy I was right //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

But if you pick a certain time period which might change in a fraction of a fraction of a second, it looks like DC, therefore, it is!

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

I guess that the sine function at pi/2 is DC current too then!

Well, that's a point on the curve, not a line But, I guess that it could instantaneously be DC as the limit of time approaches negative infinity//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Well, that's a point on the curve, not a line But, I guess that it could instantaneously be DC as the limit of time approaches negative infinity//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

But if you zoom in infinitely close enough on your calculator, it looks like a line

 

[Lakota 5,000+ posts]

But if you zoom in infinitely close enough on your calculator, it looks like a line

Then it must be DC! The calculator doesn't lie.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

If you look at this thread in a short enough snap-shot photo in time, it would appear people have stop posting in it.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

If you look at this thread in a short enough snap-shot photo in time, it would appear people have stop posting in it.

Holy ****ing Stephen Hawking right here //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 

[528hz 10+ year member]

What's all this about clipping?