F**k ported enclosures

[_J_D_Hogg 10+ year member]

vented enclosures are for kiddies who want other people to say oh your car is soooo loud!

proper music lovers, who don't mind a bit of bass in their music, always go for sealed, imho, and two 5's or 6's in the front IS NOT ENOUGH, 4 regular speakers is the minimum to compensate for a (pair of) sub(s), or you can't properly hear the music you play

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[_J_D_Hogg 10+ year member]

dont wanna offend anyone, but I honestly can't see the charm of ported boxes that only go 4 loudness and not crispiness

 

[LoneRanger 10+ year member]

If tuned properly, vented enclosures can provide the tight accurate bass of a sealed box and still kill a sealed box in output. I bet I could stick any driver in a properly designed vented box and a properly designed sealed box, and your ears couldn't pick up a difference in SQ //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[_J_D_Hogg 10+ year member]

with hiphop music you're right, with "winding" basses, but with sudden impact bass music, such as techno 4 example, the ported box just can't manage to seperate the basses from each other, and it will be a flowing of louder and softer basses in stead of seperate basskicks, and that i do not like. And i'm of the opinion that a setup should be able to handle any type of music, and still make it sound good, and not just be designed for hiphop, lemme put it like this: if my old man gets into my car, he should be able to put his cd's in, and turn it up, and it should still sound good, not necesserally loud, but good

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

Originally posted by _J_D_Hogg vented enclosures are for kiddies who want other people to say oh your car is soooo loud!

proper music lovers, who don't mind a bit of bass in their music, always go for sealed, imho, and two 5's or 6's in the front IS NOT ENOUGH, 4 regular speakers is the minimum to compensate for a (pair of) sub(s), or you can't properly hear the music you play

That is your opinion.

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

Originally posted by _J_D_Hogg vented enclosures are for kiddies who want other people to say oh your car is soooo loud!

proper music lovers, who don't mind a bit of bass in their music, always go for sealed, imho, and two 5's or 6's in the front IS NOT ENOUGH, 4 regular speakers is the minimum to compensate for a (pair of) sub(s), or you can't properly hear the music you play

That is your opinion.

 

[bumpin_blazer 5,000+ posts]

i had a ported L5 15" in a ported box that hit just as clean as my pair of overdrive 12"s in a sealed box. loneranger is completly correct if tuned properly and done right you can get almost as good of SQ from a ported box as a sealed box. oh and saying you need 4 speakers that is just false. almost every SQ winning comp. car runs a solid pair of 1"tweeters and around a 6.5" or bigger mid-bass speaker. i know i run a 5.25" comp. set up front and nothing else and sounds crispier, cleaner, and better than almost any other car i've ever sat in.

adam

 

[LoneRanger 10+ year member]

If you tune the box nice and low, you shouldn't hear the peak you're talking about unless you hit a note that coincides with the peak of the box. For example, if a box is tuned for 32hz (which is quite common in SQ and daily driver applications) the box would peak around 37-39hz. The only thing that would ever hit that low in a rock song is a drum kick, and in my opinion, that should have ALOT more punch than a bass guitar riff. My friend Dan only listens to Pink Floyd, The Doors and stuff like that. I installed an Audiobahn Alum 12 in his car on 300w RMS in a ported box tuned at 33hz, and it sounds awesome.

As for techno, I find that techno and trance actually sound pretty nice out of even higher tuned boxes because most of the low-end falls between 38-58hz......which is the most common tuning range for SPL-only enclosures. You're right that a lot of ported enclosures will make a sub sound sluggish on fast bass notes, but with a little tweaking and a lot of patience, you can come up with a ported box/sub combo that will please your ears....and still kick a sealed box's ass in output!

 

[jer_stud56 10+ year member]

you can get the same punchiness from a ported enclosure by givin the sub more frequency than gain... makin the sub move to more beats and still have the same boom as a sealed and have more "loudness"

 

[RangerMan Premium Member]

I guess I'm a kiddie at heart...I don't really understand the point of this thread.

 

[jer_stud56 10+ year member]

yeah no crap...i have a ported 10 inch... very small box...

and a sealed 12 inch... very big box!!! and the 10 inch is 3 times louder and has a lot more punch (probably cuz the 10 inch has a 120 watt amp hooked up to it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif ...

but still, after hearing that ported box, ill never go sealed!!!

 

[limitkid7 5,000+ posts]

its all personal preference.....

i had ported but now i like sealed....... i tend to recommend ported to a lot of people though..... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[jlaine 10+ year member]

Originally posted by _J_D_Hogg vented enclosures are for kiddies who want other people to say oh your car is soooo loud!

proper music lovers, who don't mind a bit of bass in their music, always go for sealed, imho, and two 5's or 6's in the front IS NOT ENOUGH, 4 regular speakers is the minimum to compensate for a (pair of) sub(s), or you can't properly hear the music you play

I'm nothing short of a music lover.

My reference home audio system uses two vented peerless CSC-X 10", a sealed pair of P17rc's, and a seas excel T25-001 tweeter. Hand built, custom designed.

Am I a kiddie then?

That's odd, because out of the 30-some-odd people that have listened to this design, 0 of them have walked away saying anything less than "amazing."

 

[dbhittin 5,000+ posts]

**** Sealed enclosers, they ****. NO bass at all. Ported u get both. Peace

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

Originally posted by Jmac Shouldn't this be in the flaming forum ?

agreed....this entire threed should be........active moderation....all i gotta say