Everyone realizes that republicans PURPOSELY have created this massive debt, correct?

[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

big juicy wang

 

[ahole-ic]

Lol you ignorant fucking douche. I hope you catch an std from a girl that now cant go and get a quick check up to make sure she's not carrying around something. Or better yet, I hope you marry one of the girls that went to planned parenthood to get a pap smear and they told her they dont do them anymore and then 10 years down the road you find out she has cancer and dies.
Its no worse than these people that are 60 on medicaid or the SS we're paying for.

I'm all for an agency that helps protect our teen girls and keep them healthy and help them out if they happen to get pregnant, which is one of the scariest times of their lives. You're a selfish fuck.

Calm down guy. No need to get mad. Not everyone has a bleeding heart. You should at least see it from his side. He phrased it in the most extreme way possible because right now we're careless with other people's money in the most extreme way possible. I can't afford kids. I'm at the age I would love to have some, but I can't afford them. Nobody owes my anything and I am responsible for my own actions, so seeing that I cannot afford children, I don't have them. Planned parenthood has been used to provide abortions. The government is not supposed to use taxpayer money for abortions. They were basically laundering money for abortions through planned parenthood. That is why it was shut down. There are a lot of lies and spin going on about this, but that's why.

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

Calm down guy. No need to get mad. Not everyone has a bleeding heart. You should at least see it from his side. He phrased it in the most extreme way possible because right now we're careless with other people's money in the most extreme way possible. I can't afford kids. I'm at the age I would love to have some, but I can't afford them. Nobody owes my anything and I am responsible for my own actions, so seeing that I cannot afford children, I don't have them. Planned parenthood has been used to provide abortions. The government is not supposed to use taxpayer money for abortions. They were basically laundering money for abortions through planned parenthood. That is why it was shut down. There are a lot of lies and spin going on about this, but that's why.

I understand why it was shut down fully. And I agree, they shouldnt pay for an abortion. But instead of just attacking the abortion issue and spending money on them, they are attacking the whole system and agency, which in fact is a great thing for younger girls. I dont care how you cut it, its not a win for society when you take something like that away.

 

[ahole-ic]

I understand why it was shut down fully. And I agree, they shouldnt pay for an abortion. But instead of just attacking the abortion issue and spending money on them, they are attacking the whole system and agency, which in fact is a great thing for younger girls. I dont care how you cut it, its not a win for society when you take something like that away.

I don't know that anyone would argue that particular point if it worked that way.... instead it works like this: Either you stop the program until the changes that need to be made are implemented, or no changes get made at all. They are already not supposed to be doing this, but they have found a way to do it anyways. So, in order to get it stopped, they are shutting the program down, implementing the proper changes and then it will be back. If it wasn't there though, don't you think it would force people to take a little more personal responsibility? I'm not advocating it be taken away. I'm just asking the question.

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

And it really just ticks me off when people dont understand what its like to live in poverty, or just live check to check and have little things taken away from you. I dont have it as bad as some do but every day there's people that wake up how they're going to make it another one. When you have to live through that and get through something like that judge on a situation. But when you havent been there keep your opinions to yourself.

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

I don't know that anyone would argue that particular point if it worked that way.... instead it works like this: Either you stop the program until the changes that need to be made are implemented, or no changes get made at all. They are already not supposed to be doing this, but they have found a way to do it anyways. So, in order to get it stopped, they are shutting the program down, implementing the proper changes and then it will be back. If it wasn't there though, don't you think it would force people to take a little more personal responsibility? I'm not advocating it be taken away. I'm just asking the question.

I think where it helps most is where insurance cant be afforded or where they are scared to let their parents know whats happening. Those girls that go for those reasons I feel for because I'm sure they're scared to death. I know for a fact that agency has probably helped out and done good for more people than you can imagine. Taking away money from that vs. the other retarded shit these rich people want instead really blows my mind.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

I'm all for an agency that helps

SOCIALIST

You're a selfish fuck.

That's how conservatives get votes. Religion, selfishness, hate.

 

[-01limited- 10+ year member]

SOCIALIST


That's how conservatives get votes. Religion, selfishness, hate.

Well when you have no one left we'll see which was the smarter route. But if you offer no help and do nothing about your country why have a government?

 

[ahole-ic]

SOCIALIST


That's how conservatives get votes. Religion, selfishness, hate.

liberal lie.

 

[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

this all relates back to the issue at hand....

Did monica swallow Bill's load or not. jesus someone answer that already.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

Doesn't each government job require 4-5 private sector jobs to support it with their taxes?

In March 2009, approx. $15 billion was spent in Federal payrolls. Pro-rating this for a year, it's approx $180 billion. The 2009 budget included $3,100 billion in expenditures. Federal employees account for 6% of the budget. Even if we fired every federal employee we'd still have a huge deficit, oh and the government would stop functioning. Would you stop spouting conservatives bullshit.

http://www2.census.gov/govs/apes/09fedfun.pdf

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy09/pdf/budget/tables.pdf

 

[ahole-ic]

In March 2009, approx. $15 billion was spent in Federal payrolls. Pro-rating this for a year, it's approx $180 billion. The 2009 budget included $3,100 billion in expenditures. Federal employees account for 6% of the budget. Even if we fired every federal employee we'd still have a huge deficit, oh and the government would stop functioning. Would you stop spouting conservatives bullshit.
http://www2.census.gov/govs/apes/09fedfun.pdf

I didn't spout anything. I asked you a question that you conveniently didn't answer. Until you do, you admit you're just a loony lefty.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

The problem with capitalism is that it promotes greed, and creates an unneeded split in the social classes. With capitalism comes monopolies, corruption, and disparity. You've all been conditioned to believe that the only way to have a successful business is to beat out the competition, which is simply not true. If wealth was based on individual merit, rather than who was better at controlling other people, the world in general would be a better place.

No one knows what socialism really is, or what it can be. It's not completely perfect, but nothing's black and white. Communism =/= Socialism.

Liberalism is a belief of liberty and equal rights(who could possibly disagree with that? Oh, wait. I forgot. No one knows what liberalism is because of media and idiots.) How is that not America? America was founded on liberty and equal rights. The only reason all you morons say it's un-American now is because the education system is convoluted and teachers, parents, media personnel, and authority figures are fascists. You've all been brainwashed by "America", and it's pathetic.

Socialism is a system in which everything is based on the community. In its purest form, it's obviously a pipe dream. However, in itself it's better than capitalism, and there needs to be a shift from capitalism to some sort of lovechild of the two, although it would take a nationwide effort which won't happen. The country's financial and political state, and general health is not because of Republicans or Democrats, per se. It's because the conservative agenda is to scare the nation into believing change won't work. It would and can work, but with all of you morons fighting it, we'll all just crash and burn.

The power is in the wrong hands, that's for sure. The real problem is understanding how the power got to their hands, because the country certainly wasn't born with this group of the elite, ultra rich. If you look at history, especially in politics and economics, in the past 150 years, you will see that there has been corruption along the way(I'm not an economics major so I can't refer to specific Supreme Court hearings or anything of the like, but I'm familiar with monopolies of different goods). The country needs change, and liberalism is the way to go. Conservatism in nature tries not to change society. Supporting conservatism is supporting fascism and it's stupid.

I know this isn't exactly relevant, but I saw too many people making stupid claims.

 

[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

communism would fix all of america's problems. we should do that on the double