You can get kicker factory refurbished kicker kx1200 with 2 l7s for about 500 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.i would go with L7s over L5s and **** get it all on ebay for way cheaper. and what audio shop did u go to in lorain? and u still never answered the most important question in the other thread! what r u going for spl or sq??!?!?!?!?