Dynamat vs Fatmatt on a budget

i liked that fatmatt had the 3rd longest adhesion but failed at 160 degrees but i dont think my trunk would get that hot in a lousiana summer close but not enough and one thing he didnt not test is the efficeny of each to deaden the unwanted noiss but who blames him that would have been a pain in the *** to spend all the money and to install and un-install all of that for free
That extra adhesion time doesn't really get you anything. All of these products have sufficient adhesion to get the job done. Butyl mat's adhesion strength actually increases with time. I'll be making this clearer in the new version. I was trying to figure out why asphalt mats failed so often and peel strength seemed to be a logical place to look.

The air inside your trunk probably will not get to 160°F, but the sheet metal almost certainly will - especially South of the Mason-Dixon line. It doesn't even need to get that hot. The rubber compounds that stabilize the asphalt start to deteriorate at temperatures much lower than that. Asphalt products become more prone to failure with the passage of time - may not fail during the first or second year, but may well during the second or third.

FatMat is Peel & Seal, or so similar that it is impossible to tell the difference. In terms of effectiveness, it is impossible for asphalt to work any where near as well as butyl. Both butyl and asphalt damp vibration by adding mass to the panel. They may also stiffen the panel, depending on thickness of the foil and strength of the adhesive. Butyl has the advantage of being viscoelastic which adds a completely different mechanism that asphalt doesn't have. FatMat is much lighter than the others, so even in terms of mass, it loses.

There is no reason to use asphalt in a car. I wouldn't even consider it. Since butyl works so much better, just spend as much on it as you were planning to spend on asphalt. Spread the stuff out and you will never have to worry about it again.

 
**** my impluse buying. I wish this was brought up before. O well I Guess Ill just report back on how crappy it is
Have you gotten it yet? FatMat often takes weeks and weeks to deliver. A lot of people have been able to cancel - seems to be easier than getting the product sometimes.

 
I was looking into buying fatmat but it was too iffy of a website, half the pages didnt work, meaning it hadnt been updated in forever and they obviously dont have very good support

so then I was gonna get some raamat since everybody talks about it and their website doesnt look very updated and I was trying to figure out about their 20% off deal, it seems to have been there for awhile and the thing says they will be shipping the new stuff in a couple days, so it must all just be the new stuff and they never took that promotion thing off the website

 
Working on it ...
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Someone needs to do an updated version, now that eDead is butyl, along with their UE, and other companies coming out with new or improved products.
I guess you didn't realize the author was already replying in this thread. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Rudy's da man.

 
Lol Well thats funnny you mention about how its takes week to get i put in my order yestreday but i bought it of ebay and they have tooken the money out of account which is strange because everytime i by something its automatically withdrawn i might cancel it

but raamatt doesnt have a trunk kit and thats all i need

 
i still have boratitis i like to make a sexy time with a mother in law

anyway being that the order didnt withdraw the money from my account i was able to cance it like it never happened i was getting scared because i went to the websiite and the sitre was up and running suprisly i was able to cancel

now i just have to find a deal on raamatt or some kind of trunk kit

 
i still have boratitis i like to make a sexy time with a mother in law
anyway being that the order didnt withdraw the money from my account i was able to cance it like it never happened i was getting scared because i went to the websiite and the sitre was up and running suprisly i was able to cancel

now i just have to find a deal on raamatt or some kind of trunk kit
Good deal. Slow shipping works in the customer's favor again!

I'd still go with RAAMmat or Second Skin. Second Skin definitely has trunk kits. You might also want to e-mail Rick at RAAM to see if he has any partial rolls to sell - I've heard of him doing that sometimes.

Just as a reminder, before you apply any of these products, you want to make sure that everything is tightened up, wrapped in foam, locked in place with silicone caulk or expanding foam - whatever it takes to immobilize the rattling parts. Sound deadener will reduce the energy available to drive the rattles, but t won't always get rid of them all. Nothing worse than having to pull sound deadener off because you sealed a rattle in.

 
How long does it take raammat to be delivered? I have a 93 civic coupe and i will be doing the doors and trunk. I figured one roll should be enough. Is the ensolite needed or is that just for comp cars. Thanks for the help.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
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