Double murder and **** of white couple by 5 black men: Where's the outrage?

[Soler 10+ year member]

What about the Hebrews in Egypt?

nope not as bad

Thought it was common knowledge that the african american slave trade was the worst in history

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

But those are examples of how American republicanism (not democracy- this country is NOT a democracy) is ***-backwards. It's giving privelages to the little guy at the expense of the big guy. What ever happened to majority rule?

Agreed. That is why a lol when I hear "spreading democracy"

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

nope not as badThought it was common knowledge that the african american slave trade was the worst in history

You're either ignorant or stupid. Yes, the american slave trade was the worst. You said treatment, though-- blacks didnt have to drag stones that were too heavy for modern day cranes to lift, onto the top of f'n pyramids in the middle of the damn desert.

 

[soydeedo 10+ year member]

The problem is... not everyone can be happy.
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Affirmative Action is a noble program with a noble cause, but it's coming at the expense of white people. We're being discriminated against in the workplace and the schools.

this is exactly right. the problem with affirmative action is that it's almost like they're looking for compensation when it should just be plain equality.
the problem here is that people need to adapt their thought process, but they're resistant to change . it's true that there is discriminatory sentiment still amongst whites as evidenced by this thread, but that is what needs to be combated against, not the workers themselves. a white hopeful isn't going to go to the employer and say hire me - i'm white. but a white employer when faced with two equal prospects might take the white one the majority of the time. in cases like that it should be 50/50.

but where it all goes to shit is when people start pulling up numbers. we're so obsessed with statistics that employers trying to make their quota of black workers will choose the black one every time in the above circumstance. that's wrong and a huge byproduct of affirmative action.

If you look at the stats, Athiests, Jews, Muslims and other religious minorities are small minorities in the American religious community. But the Christians have been bowing to these groups, and made Christianity a laughing stock. I remember we had a day in school where we learned all about Jewish culture, and no one complained. At schools, if a Muslim wants to teach about his heritage (and religion zOMG!), the parents have to opt the students out. If a Christan wants to teach about the religious background of Christianity, the kids have to opt in. Saw it in my own high school.

well if they did all three together i doubt anyone would care. if they only did the christian one then sure people are going to put up a fight. i think that's just more a defensive mentality because people are constantly bombarded by christian ideals. not saying it's right, but i don't think it's fair to have any single religion be represented in school without adequate responses from a few others. anyways they were all optional in the end so i don't get your point. opting in just means that the majority of the people in your school are already christian and they don't need to learn about it, right? it's not like it was bible study, it was probably just a basic introduction to the religion. same with the other presentations of islam and judaism.

What ever happened to majority rule?

eh...if you want an unequal nation then you might be going a little too far. majority rule for the direction of the country with things like foreign policy and economics is one thing, for religious freedom and justice it's another.

I think this is partly the whiteys' fault. We haven't gotten angry about it. We just sit back and take it as the Supreme Court makes us the scapegoat.

no the problem is you are angry about it. and so are the blacks. you need to get it out of your head that they are taking away your rights by having to respect others and they need to forget the past and live in the present. unfortunately that'll never happen unless both sides come to a truce. honestly i don't see it ever coming to an end.
man this is long. and pointless. last time i make a big post again. =P

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

nope not as badThought it was common knowledge that the african american slave trade was the worst in history

Maybe the most systematic and organized....how do you define worst?

How many people have to die?

Stalin has about 20 million under his belt

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

no the problem is you are angry about it. and so are the blacks. you need to get it out of your head that they are taking away your rights by having to respect others and they need to forget the past and live in the present. unfortunately that'll never happen unless both sides come to a truce. honestly i don't see it ever coming to an end.

Competing for economic opportunities is not about respecting the competiton. It is about competitve advantages. The way AA is implemented, it unlevels the playing field (exactly as Kenneth Arrow envisioned).

 

[soydeedo 10+ year member]

I explained in another thread about this issue.
African farmers are well aware of farming techniques to increase their yield. It does no good if they are unable to transport and sell the products. The lack of enforced legal system doesn't allow investment in the infratsructure required.

They are not ignorant of these issues, but their government keeps them from participating. If we assist in revolutions, we are accused of nation-building.

sorry i thought you were also talking about the greed over oil and diamonds as well as the aids epidemic. famine is another big one, though. =P as is the associated economic burden.
excellent points btw and i see we agree on the faltering regimes. and yeah we walk a fine line with our nation building. heh. it hurts my head sometimes just thinking about the state of the world.

hm actually i don't think we'd upset anyone over helping out during a revolution. it's just when we are the revolution. that's kinda what i'm hoping for in iran. if the people finally rise up and we support them that would be our best way to diffuse that whole mess.

 

[wu36ca 10+ year member]

Stuff that happened 150 years ago? Since when was the twentieth century 150 years ago. Culturally accepted racism against blacks did not end with the Emanciptation Proclomation.

 

[Soler 10+ year member]

You're either ignorant or stupid. Yes, the american slave trade was the worst. You said treatment, though-- blacks didnt have to drag stones that were too heavy for modern day cranes to lift, onto the top of f'n pyramids in the middle of the damn desert.

oh my bad i worded it wrong i meant slave trade on the first one

 

[soydeedo 10+ year member]

The way AA is implemented, it unlevels the playing field (exactly as Kenneth Arrow envisioned).

i wasn't referring to affirmative action at the point you quoted me. i was just referring to race relations in general.
and i agree that it creates unearned opportunity, but i never said i agree with it anyways. i thought i made that clear when i said if equally qualified the employer should pick black vs white at a rate of 50/50.

i don't know what the creator envisioned and i won't claim to be that well versed on its origins, but i'm just telling you how i think it should be - which is not like it is.

Competing for economic opportunities is not about respecting the competiton. It is about competitve advantages.

well yeah. that makes sense to me. again when i was talking about respect i was referring to respecting the race as a whole, not in the context of employment. obviously you will want to present yourself as the best candidate when applying for a job, but if you have to use a crux like affirmative action as your competitive advantage then i guess i see your point. but i already said i agreed with that. =P

 

[soydeedo 10+ year member]

Stuff that happened 150 years ago? Since when was the twentieth century 150 years ago. Culturally accepted racism against blacks did not end with the Emanciptation Proclomation.

yeah i mentioned that in my long-winded post. the 60's weren't that long ago, people. the same kids that were tormented then are parents and grandparents now and teach the youth of today.
they need to let it go if we are to move forward, but at least you can understand where they're coming from a little better viewing it that way.

 

[wu36ca 10+ year member]

There are people who are still bitter about the Civil War. Calling it the war of northern aggression. People never forget.

I just think when it comes to race people love to jump on their high horse. Its always "oh we are not racist, they are the racist ones." Every race shows their racism in their own way. I tend to agree with the anti-PC, anti affirmative action people, but even they seem a little narrow minded to the subject.

 

[mysilver02alty 10+ year member]

Not trying to be funny, this is a serious issue.
as far as what does race have to do with this?

A White man calls a team a racial slur (even though the team has members of several different ethnicities) and he is on the front page of news and all over TV.

5 Black Men **** and kill a white couple. I hear about it on a CAR AUDIO FORUM.

Race has everything to do with it. And it shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Thats because Don Imus is nationally know whereas none of the people in this story are known by anyone but their friends. Its not newsworthy really because it happens all the time. Has nothing to do with race, just sick people doing sick things. I guess maybe you think the white media is trying to cover it up.

 

[mysilver02alty 10+ year member]

This is going to be flammed for sure. But in some ways, with Africa in such a bad situation, wouldn't starting slavery again to work crops, farmlands etc not be such a bad idea as it could help save SO many lives?
Thoughts?

I'm not a racist, I'm really trying to think of a way to save lives in africa while supporting the workloads needed here in America for jobs that no one wants.

Its really amazing how ignorant some of you people really are. Btw, i thought it was a really nice touch for you to say "I'm not a racist" right after suggesting we bring back slavery. Good one

 

[dumple 5,000+ posts]

not really funny^^^..but as far as the situation they do deserve do die slowfully painful deaths, or rot in jail for the crime they commited...but what does race have to do with this?

are you ****ing serious?! A white man says nappy headed hoes(which i hear much worse from black kids in school every day directed to the girls) and he loses his job and has to apologize to Al sharpton 3 words brings the media into an up roar about what one man said about some stupid women's basketball team but basically its ok for a colored person to murder 2 people steal their car and **** someone ? I dont see how race cant do something with this if the same situation happened to a black couple by 4 white people then what would happen