From what I have seen, the toby subs aren't anything special. Im not knocking toby cause I have heard a few setups and its pretty impressive, but their subs are usually only a couple hundred rms. Its all in the box design, im not positive but im pretty sure the guy only sells sub/box combos and all the boxes are bandpass'. A friend of mine had a toby 10 in his dodge ram on the back seat on about 200 watts and it got LOUD.whats a toby speaker?