do i need an extra battery to run a AQ2200 an AQ4x90

The big three consists of upgrading the wire from 1. Batt neg to ground, 2. Batt Pos to alt pos and 3. Engine chassis to ground. Depending on what your batt amp hours are, along with the added amps from your alt, will give you an idea of if it will be enough or not. But yes, the batt is used for starting/cranking and providing power when vehicle is either off or in acc. A deep cell batt will likely be the route to take. It is for backup to the alt when voltage is an issue. Just google deep cell batt and see what you come up with.

 
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Hence the no I'm not mad bro... Just really dot care when I'm on my phone... This subject just really irritates me cuz all these guys jump in here saying drop hundreds of dollars on an alt when my system is proff they aren't needed...
I partly agree with you here. You can get a lot out of a low amp alt if you play your cards right. The entire system works as a whole, as it is technically a circuit, so every component is just as important as the next.

 
lmfao..

what do you guys do for a living?

your not going to benifit from adding batteries..

if you want more power without voltage drop or end up burning your alternator upgrade your alternator..

if your having to rely on the batteries to power your electronics the alternator has to try to supply the vehicles electronics and charge the batteries..

so if you want ur batteries and alt to prematurely wear out keep adding batteries..

it's in believable this idiot would suggest you add another battery..

 
I partly agree with you here. You can get a lot out of a low amp alt if you play your cards right. The entire system works as a whole, as it is technically a circuit, so every component is just as important as the next.
not to be a **** but the alternator has a much much lower resistance so current flow will come from the alt long before the battery discharges in fact the alt is trying to charge the battery constantly..

ever heard Of over charging?

it takes quite a bit of over current for the alt to build up enough resistance for the batteries to discharge( not uncommon on these cats systems as the alt almost never charges the batteries fully)

that's why u see people say the deep cycles work better, because they cycle a low esr battery so fast it dies..

trust me I've been doing electrical for a long time and I've done more testing than most people ever imagine..

 
Your an idiot... That truck has a bigger alt then most of these cars on this forum stock... And ya I know WTF a batt and alt do stop telling people to waste money...
every now and again I have to take some one to school..

you might want to read what the alternator does in a car..

then ask why we have a battery..

 

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Your an idiot... That truck has a bigger alt then most of these cars on this forum stock... And ya I know WTF a batt and alt do stop telling people to waste money...
every now and again I have to take some one to school..

you might want to read what the alternator does in a car..

then ask why we have a battery..

 
OP I ran my aq2200@.5ohm and my 100.4-2ohm per channel off a stock 130amp alt and 2 dekas and I would not drop below 12.9-.8 during tone burst. During daily music I would hover in the mid to high 13's. So ur alt with 2 good batts you should be good to go. All this gotta have an alt talk is BS. Let them buy there $500+ alt and still not be as loud as me..

 
I am an acoustical engineer with a background in sound propagation and electronics engineering degree. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I believe I know what I'm talking about. Yes, you are right, the alternator is very important in supplying the audio system and the batt is there for off and acc supply, but the batt is and can be used for backup supply for voltage drop. Having a batt with a higher ah will allow more wattage to supply the system as you have to account for total usable system wattage, and since wattage is a power function, it is directly related to the other factors of ohms law. Every component is important. But yes, upgrading the alt is one of the first thing I would do as well though, hate to say it bettr, but that is a good choice in any system if you plan to run it all out when the vehicle is charging. You both are right to a point. One of you is concentrating on the batt and the other alt. They are both important. But to go with bettr and paper, listen up....the only time you should worry about the alt, is if youu try to overrun the "circuit". Matching the amps output capabilities in your electrical system as a whole is just as important as matching resistance values. Because yes,the alt will only supply so much and look for backup and if its not there, well you know. So, simply put, match it. Don't exceed it. And you should never have problems electrically with amp draw or v drop. Its those who try to run a 5kw amp on a 105a alt and a factory batt that will experience issues in the long run likely. The amp will try to draw more than it can....something will go. Same concept with overpowering a sub...as it, the load, is part of that circuit as well. You both have a point.

 
not to be a **** but the alternator has a much much lower resistance so current flow will come from the alt long before the battery discharges in fact the alt is trying to charge the battery constantly..ever heard Of over charging?

it takes quite a bit of over current for the alt to build up enough resistance for the batteries to discharge( not uncommon on these cats systems as the alt almost never charges the batteries fully)

that's why u see people say the deep cycles work better, because they cycle a low esr battery so fast it dies..

trust me I've been doing electrical for a long time and I've done more testing than most people ever imagine..
You're right. There is a percentage of batt use less than 100% at most times. Actually you're not being a ****, this is actually right. I agree with this. What's the issue? I'm not sure where you're trying to argue here. Are you saying the batt is not important at all? That is incorrect. The is always a small draw from the batt as the amp system is cycled in series directly from the battery. And that is called current flow, where total resistance is more important than a single components resistance. There is a draw. Its residual. The batt can supply what's called watts per hour as well as amps per hour and a portion of this is calculated into the full available wattage supply to the accessories. The alt does not do everything. Its a total supply. I don't know how you cannot understand that.

 
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