they are trying different things because the industry shrinks every year as well as the number of competitors....in the mid 90's their were more competitors at sbn and mid west shoot out (sq) in one year than usaci and iasca over a whole season this year or last.....
NeverEnuffBass
10+ year member
Got Bass?
Nice, I wouldn't mind trying to compete in this class.
ngsm13
5,000+ posts
BSEE
Indeed.
nG
rear fill must be present to get 10 easy points... Looks like I'm going to be starting out in the red.
ngsm13
5,000+ posts
BSEE
No shit.
Ghey.
nG
Ghey.
nG
helotaxi
5,000+ posts
Kilroy was Here
Perfect example of how they are shooting themselves in the ***. They come up with ghey rules like that. IASCA and their stupid "be able to provide receipts" will keep me from ever joining their org again. I'm not going to replace my amps just to be able to compete in the consumer class simply because I can't prove that I got bent over on the price of my amps 11 years ago.
If they really cared about growing the industry they would build real world demo cars that resemble something that you could actually live with as a daily driver rather than something that escaped from a comic book. They would use the guys who have been around for awhile to attract new competitors and consumers rather than forcing them to buy new gear if they want to compete. They wouldn't eliminate basic features from a HU to force you to buy a $900 external processor package just to get have the same features that were in a $400 HU the year before.
CBFryman2
5,000+ posts
Banned
It's a worthless competition IMO. Why doesn Wayne just buy MECA and kick their stupid ***** out the door? If dB Drag starts with all of these stupid assed rules and stupid assed competition then I will have to find another competition association or just start my own. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
growing the industry isnt the use of 11 year old gear and i have never seen inboard processing on a headunit ever compare to a good out board unit....when you look at what they are doing dont look at it from 1 perspective look at it as a whole. sound q died because it took too long and alot of people who thought they knew how to do something didnt then you have spl contests that gain competitors every year but at the same time lose a good percentage of the hard core croud (the ones that make it and finish solid at finals every year). they are just trying to find a common ground people like and what better way to find out than going totally onesided then mold it to the middle.
i dont want this to be considered a rip on bass race but who would guess that trying to stay at a consistant db score without going under or over would amount to squat? lol i wouldnt have.
helotaxi
5,000+ posts
Kilroy was Here
The processing might not be as good but it beats the hell out of what's there now: nothing! For the difference in cost, I'll **** up the slightly degraded capability. I really only wanted the basic crossover and time alignment as a stop gap until I could afford the outboard processor, but I was left with an all or nothing situation and a bad taste in my mouth.
As far as using 11 year old gear, if you look at it as one sale, then just quit now. That kind of shortsightedness has already doomed the industry. I wouldn't be able to compete in the interim while upgrading the system to include new amps without going to the Pro class where I don't belong. You want to attract new blood. You do that with old blood. Which is better from an industry growth standpoint: 1 old guy upgrading his stuff in order to compete or that same old guy attracting 5-10 new consumers without upgrading his stuff? The result in my case will be neither because I won't compete, how is that good for the growth of the industry?
As far as using 11 year old gear, if you look at it as one sale, then just quit now. That kind of shortsightedness has already doomed the industry. I wouldn't be able to compete in the interim while upgrading the system to include new amps without going to the Pro class where I don't belong. You want to attract new blood. You do that with old blood. Which is better from an industry growth standpoint: 1 old guy upgrading his stuff in order to compete or that same old guy attracting 5-10 new consumers without upgrading his stuff? The result in my case will be neither because I won't compete, how is that good for the growth of the industry?
i really doubt you would get stuck with needing reciepts i never had to provide any and my car was an original image dynamics team car that took second in the world for usaci and iasca . my first big show people in my class recignized the car and immediately started crying. judges looked at one of the guys and said "wasnt your car at ces last yr for mb quart?" was histerical i was in a consumer class. i dont think 11 yr old gear would even be in doubt of a sponsership simply over that time every manufacturer i know of has moved over seas with their build houses and the models have changed. i never had to provide reciepts and they had rules for it then as they do now.
matrxx dude
5,000+ posts
TEAM DB UNIT
yeah hitting 136db 10 feet away is going to be real hard to do.
CBFryman2
5,000+ posts
Banned
I'd venture to say most of the 149.9 bassracers can do it and some of the 139.9's can. And the 149.9ers ususally but a crap ton of Co-Axils and all in their sealing boads of their wall so this will be a competition for them.
I think this new competition format is a great idea! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif
Eventually all the kinks & rules will get worked out, but the basic format is right on! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsupwink.gif.129404938effda6ad9cca39e7f4b58a3.gif
Competition judging for daily full range audio systems (Tweets, Mids & Subs) with install points.
PSYCHO LOUD!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif
BTW, here is the full discussion link:
http://audioforum.termpro.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/4/16997.html
Eventually all the kinks & rules will get worked out, but the basic format is right on! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsupwink.gif.129404938effda6ad9cca39e7f4b58a3.gif
Competition judging for daily full range audio systems (Tweets, Mids & Subs) with install points.
PSYCHO LOUD!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif
BTW, here is the full discussion link:
http://audioforum.termpro.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/4/16997.html
Not Wayne. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/nono.gif.eca61d170185779e0921b0faa9704973.gif He built his whole org around just that.
It is great that he is branching out on it though! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsupwink.gif.129404938effda6ad9cca39e7f4b58a3.gif
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