Dayton Front Stage??

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

ok im thinking of getting a better front stage.I cant get to expensive because money is tight (tax return time is comeing tho //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/up2something.gif.dd110ecf3ae4b76050d87598f2f8de7c.gif ) so i was thinking of doing a dayton front stage, anyone ever try this?

Crossovers:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=260-144 2-way

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=260-152 3-way

Midd Bass:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-308

tweet:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=275-070

and a midd rage if i need one?

or if you can think of any other fairly cheap set let me know please.

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[PRIVATEpastry 10+ year member]

Don't use those crossovers. You should run active if you're going to be doing a DIY front stage.

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

ok so with out a crossover how would i wire it to the amp? the 2 tweets on CH 1 and 2 and the mid bass on 3 and 4?

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

and use the crossover on the amp?

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

well here's the problem you would need to bandpass the mids so then you would need an active crossover. i didn't even check but most likely your amp probably won't be able to bandpass your mids. only high end amps have that, or from what researched.

maybe contact ologyaudio and he can custom some xovers for you but my suggestion is the same as above, go active.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

what hedunit and amp do you have? you can always buy an external 3-way xover.

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

what hedunit and amp do you have?

JVC kd-9700 -HU. PG 150.4 -Speaker Amp. in his sig //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[OlogyAudio 10+ year member]

well here's the problem you would need to bandpass the mids so then you would need an active crossover. i didn't even check but most likely your amp probably won't be able to bandpass your mids. only high end amps have that, or from what researched.
maybe contact ologyaudio and he can custom some xovers for you but my suggestion is the same as above, go active.

Active and EQ would be the best setup -- though that costs a little more money... What are you looking to spend on the front? (Speakers/amps/EQ) -- you can live without good EQ but... http://www.partsexpress.com/pdf/295-308g.pdf look at that FR... The lower you can push the xover point the better with this particular unit... I'd suggest taking a peak at the Seas TDFC or TBFC tweeters

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=6475627.29843&pid=1002

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=6475627.29843&pid=1005

Yea they cost more but it's very worth it...

Comes down to what you can afford rly...

I've never used this one:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=290-308&ctab=3#Tabs

But if you go active it looks like it would be easier than the dayton to get a decently flat response with it...

1st order ~1.5khz or so (depending on Q) on the HU and use the amp's xover between 2-3.5khz depending on the install...

This would likely be able to integrate reasonably with the Dayton tweeter...

A passive design for ethr of these units wouldn't be too design friendly... Needless to say a textbook xover in this case would… blow…

 

[lslugz 10+ year member]

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=6475627.29843&pid=1005Yea they cost more but it's very worth it...

I ordered a pair on friday, thanks ology! cant wait to get them.

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

Ok tell me if this corect.

1. Set my EQ on my HU to what sounds good to me? (dunno)

2. Set EQ on my amp to Hpf on Ch.1 and 2 for the tweets 1.5khz and ^, lpf on Ch.3 and 4 for midbass at 60-100hz?.

or

1.Set my EQ on my HU to what sounds good

2.Use Ch.1 and 2 with out the crossover on my amp set and just use an external crossover?

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

1. Set my EQ on my HU to what sounds good to me? (dunno)

2. Set EQ on my amp to Hpf on Ch.1 and 2 for the tweets 1.5khz and ^, lpf on Ch.3 and 4 for midbass at 60-100hz?.

problem with this is where are your speakers playing between 100hz - 1.5khz? like i said you probably can't use the xovers on your amp because it probably won't let you bandpass the mids

1.Set my EQ on my HU to what sounds good

2.Use Ch.1 and 2 with out the crossover on my amp set and just use an external crossover?

this seems to be the better option but wouldn't you want to use channels 3 and 4 as well?

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

yeah mabe for midrange?

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

you were going to use channels 1 and 2 for both tweets and midbass?

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

right with a crossover, my amp does 25x4 or 75x2 i think ill look it up real fast tho.... but if i just use the front Ch's with option 2 from what a wrote above couldnt i use 3 and 4 for midrange?

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

or a 3-way crossover?