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[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

If you look at the red/blue map of California, it's very similar.

Washington state is the same. Tye metro areas control everything and anyone outside of those metro a functionally unrepresented by their state government

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Patel uses FBI jet to get laid, at a cost to the taxpayers of $100-150K.
The, he fires the guy he accuses of "leaking" the public-access info about the flight.

Just another day in the GOP.
Only a person with severe TDS would find a problem with any of this.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

A lot of nonsense talk that says nothing about the facts. Those facts being: 34 class E felony convictions.

Accept the facts, instead of believing what some idiot on YouTube tells you.

So you have been presented the actual laws and what is required BY LAW to turn those misdemeanors into felonies and even though they list no other intended crime which is needed BY LAW to turn those misdemeanors into felonies they somehow list 34 felonies and say convicted.

"Not allowed to present evidence"?
Explain.

Judge Juan Merchan is a Democrat. This case was a MAJOR conflict of interest for him.

https://aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/4-Merchan-Bias-and-Recusal.pdf

His attorneys called only two witnesses, allowed Trump to testify once, and rested their case.
But you have a better defense for him. The "believe, and you shall see the truth" defense.
Laughable

New Report: How Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and Judge Merchan Violated the Constitutional and Legal Rights of President Donald J. Trump

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Judiciary Committee and its Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report titled, "Lawfare: How the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and a New York State Judge Violate

judiciary.house.gov

https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-07-09%20Lawfare%20-%20How%20the%20Manhattan%20District%20Attorneys%20Office%20and%20a%20New%20York%20State%20Judge%20Violated%20the%20Constitutional%20and%20Lega.pdf

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you have been presented the actual laws and what is required BY LAW to turn those misdemeanors into felonies and even though they list no other intended crime which is needed BY LAW to turn those misdemeanors into felonies they somehow list 34 felonies and say convicted.

So you fail to read the law, and fail to read the court documents. or maybe you simply can't understand them.
And you think that somehow equates to Trump being innocent?
Phuq, that's pretty damn funny.

Judge Juan Merchan is a Democrat. This case was a MAJOR conflict of interest for him.

Expain the stupidity you are trying to push with this statement.

https://aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/4-Merchan-Bias-and-Recusal.pdf

A pro-Trump group, claiming that the judge was unfair, after the jury decided on his guilt?
WOW, that is so thoroughly convincing, I have to rethink EVERYTHING.
Nope. It's no more convincing than any of your dumb parroting of other idiots you hear or watch.

New Report: How Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and Judge Merchan Violated the Constitutional and Legal Rights of President Donald J. Trump

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Judiciary Committee and its Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report titled, "Lawfare: How the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and a New York State Judge Violate

judiciary.house.gov

This is a circular argument. It says their acts were unconstitutional, becasue their acts were unconstitutional.
OK. Then Trump was judged guilty, becasue Trump is guilty.
Appeal denied.

https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-07-09%20Lawfare%20-%20How%20the%20Manhattan%20District%20Attorneys%20Office%20and%20a%20New%20York%20State%20Judge%20Violated%20the%20Constitutional%20and%20Lega.pdf

"ambiguous, unknown federal crime".
Election tampering and tax evasion are as far from "ambiguous" and "unknown" as can be.

Tax evasion is covered under 26 U.S.C. § 7201:
Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.
(Aug. 16, 1954, ch. 736

No, tax evasion law wasn't "made up by Democrats to hurt Trump". It goes back to the Civil War.
Election tampering is covered under 52 U.S. Code § 20511.

Go ahead and look them both up, then come back with your scholarly analysis of how they are "ambiguous" and "unknown" laws.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you fail to read the law, and fail to read the court documents. or maybe you simply can't understand them.
And you think that somehow equates to Trump being innocent?
Phuq, that's pretty damn funny.


Expain the stupidity you are trying to push with this statement.

A pro-Trump group, claiming that the judge was unfair, after the jury decided on his guilt?
WOW, that is so thoroughly convincing, I have to rethink EVERYTHING.
Nope. It's no more convincing than any of your dumb parroting of other idiots you hear or watch.

This is a circular argument. It says their acts were unconstitutional, becasue their acts were unconstitutional.
OK. Then Trump was judged guilty, becasue Trump is guilty.
Appeal denied.


"ambiguous, unknown federal crime".
Election tampering and tax evasion are as far from "ambiguous" and "unknown" as can be.

Tax evasion is covered under 26 U.S.C. § 7201:
Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.
(Aug. 16, 1954, ch. 736

No, tax evasion law wasn't "made up by Democrats to hurt Trump". It goes back to the Civil War.
Election tampering is covered under 52 U.S. Code § 20511.

Go ahead and look them both up, then come back with your scholarly analysis of how they are "ambiguous" and "unknown" laws.

What does it smell like to have your head that far up the lefts ***?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

What does it smell like to have your head that far up the lefts ***?

How does it feel to be 50+ years old, and wholly unable to debate like an adult?

Do you feel ashamed, or proud of it?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

How does it feel to be 50+ years old, and wholly unable to debate like an adult?

Do you feel ashamed, or proud of it?

You don't debate like an adult.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

How does it feel to be 50+ years old, and wholly unable to debate like an adult?

Do you feel ashamed, or proud of it?

What's the definition of debating like an adult?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

He literally posted a list of 34 felony convictions. Then tells me to look up other crimes he is not convicted of to support his post of the 34 felony convictions. Which has nothing to do with this case otherwise he would have been charged with them.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

The abuse part is where you said something that he didn't like. That's the abuse the soy burger is talking about

Careful the lips are flapping like muff burger

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

What's the definition of debating like an adult?

Usung facts and evidence.
Not threatening violence.
Not demanding that one's opinions be accepted as fact, simply becasue one has them.
Not making declarative statements as facts, when they are easily proved to be lies.
Not parroting unfounded nonsense, without performing any due diligence.
Not blindly believing and promulgating things one hears, simply because the support one's narrative.
Not countering facts and evidence with phrases like "you're a liberal ****".

And so on.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

He literally posted a list of 34 felony convictions. Then tells me to look up other crimes he is not convicted of to support his post of the 34 felony convictions. Which has nothing to do with this case otherwise he would have been charged with them.

So you refuse to read the legal documentation of the hearing, but demand your opinion of Trump's innocence be accepted as fact.
You are worse than a spoiled child.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Usung facts and evidence.
Not threatening violence.
Not demanding that one's opinions be accepted as fact, simply becasue one has them.
Not making declarative statements as facts, when they are easily proved to be lies.
Not parroting unfounded nonsense, without performing any due diligence.
Not blindly believing and promulgating things one hears, simply because the support one's narrative.
Not countering facts and evidence with phrases like "you're a liberal ****".

And so on.

You should practice what you preach then. I presented you with facts and laws and what did you do?

Coupling to the crime of New York Penal Law 175.05, prosecutors must establish that your intent to defraud involved further criminal intent to either hide the commission of another crime or to assist in the commission of that other crime.

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A lot of nonsense talk that says nothing about the facts. Those facts being: 34 class E felony convictions.

Accept the facts, instead of believing what some idiot on YouTube tells you.

So you have been presented the actual laws and what is required BY LAW to turn those misdemeanors into felonies and even though they list no other intended crime which is needed BY LAW to turn those misdemeanors into felonies they somehow list 34 felonies and say convicted.

"Not allowed to present evidence"?
Explain.

Judge Juan Merchan is a Democrat. This case was a MAJOR conflict of interest for him.


https://aflegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/4-Merchan-Bias-and-Recusal.pdf

His attorneys called only two witnesses, allowed Trump to testify once, and rested their case.
But you have a better defense for him. The "believe, and you shall see the truth" defense.
Laughable

New Report: How Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and Judge Merchan Violated the Constitutional and Legal Rights of President Donald J. Trump ​

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Judiciary Committee and its Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report titled, "

judiciary.house.gov





https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-07-09%20Lawfare%20-%20How%20the%20Manhattan%20District%20Attorneys%20Office%20and%20a%20New%20York%20State%20Judge%20Violated%20the%20Constitutional%20and%20Lega.pdf


You claim I did not read this or must not have read that.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Usung facts and evidence.
Not threatening violence.
Not demanding that one's opinions be accepted as fact, simply becasue one has them.
Not making declarative statements as facts, when they are easily proved to be lies.
Not parroting unfounded nonsense, without performing any due diligence.
Not blindly believing and promulgating things one hears, simply because the support one's narrative.
Not countering facts and evidence with phrases like "you're a liberal ****".

And so on.

But you do the same thing and go a step further and lie about what people say in order to fit your own narrative, regardless of how damaging the lie is. Lying about other people to make yourself look better is what children do.